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  • #16
    Originally posted by MamiyaOtaru View Post
    Dolphin is broken for me until the optional dirtree on the left shows the root directory.

    As for the rest, I hate how it feels and looks, which is entirely subjective. Nothing can be done about it and I don't expect anything to be done about it. I'm just riding 3.5 into the ground. Once it is no longer receiving security patches I'll have to do something else.
    Like this:



    Know ye software and it won't bite ya matey

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    • #17
      On my system (Archlinux x86_64) currently, rekonq, konsole, dolphin, ksysguard and akregator are running and memory usage is 383 MB.

      Well, honestly I cant consider this sucking on memory usage at all.


      Originally posted by t.s. View Post
      Well, for me KDE 4.x Sucks on Memory usage. It's painful, really.
      1xxMB on KDE 3.5.10 Debian Lenny,
      4xxMB on KDE 4.3.2 Kubuntu.

      Ouch.
      I wish then can lower KDE 4.x memory requirement.

      Btw,
      I love both version. But in Visual, I prefer KDE 3.5

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      • #18
        Originally posted by t.s. View Post
        Well, for me KDE 4.x Sucks on Memory usage. It's painful, really.
        1xxMB on KDE 3.5.10 Debian Lenny,
        4xxMB on KDE 4.3.2 Kubuntu.

        Ouch.
        I wish then can lower KDE 4.x memory requirement.
        That is kind of an unfair comparison, ubuntu has always used more ram than debian. You should install the backported kde4 from debian-desktop.org or compile it yourself on lenny (just install it in /opt) to get an accurate assessment.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
          That is kind of an unfair comparison, ubuntu has always used more ram than debian. You should install the backported kde4 from debian-desktop.org or compile it yourself on lenny (just install it in /opt) to get an accurate assessment.
          Yep, you're right!
          My Debian Squeeze KDE 4.3.x use only ~26xMB.
          Silly me to compare debian with kubuntu, hehe..

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MamiyaOtaru View Post
            Dolphin is broken for me until the optional dirtree on the left shows the root directory.
            The easy way is to click the icon at start of path, root is one of the options there. I don't even use the dirtree, nor do I think dolphin is that important. It annoys me much more than Gwenview is completely broken for a download folder. It'll show some pics, then try showing a movie and crash. And you can't stop it from playing movies, WTF?

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            • #21
              I don't understand the complaints about Dolphin.

              Konqueror is still there, you can still use it as a file manager, what's the problem?

              Just because Dolphin is the default now doesn't mean that you have to use it.

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              • #22
                Dolphin is quite tweakable and can be made to perform nearly like a orthodox file manager with the right settings. Still, though I disagree that KDE4 is garbage, I found it wasn't the type of environment in which I wanted to work. Just too slick, far too much eye candy, and missing such basic functionality out of the box as right clicking on the desktop for a popup system menu.

                Seeing as how that seems to be the that the KDE developers are going to stick to, it's best just to move on and switch to something more to your liking. I decided on Openbox, whose minimal functionality allows one to piece things together exactly to their liking.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by EzInKy View Post
                  ...Just too slick, far too much eye candy, and missing such basic functionality out of the box as right clicking on the desktop for a popup system menu.
                  Ah.. Yes.. A comrade
                  With air theme and no compositing/'A'lpha, it looks ugly. Sure, when we turn on the compositing, it feels beautiful. But then..

                  It makes me go-forth-and-back to gnome (which still have a good-lookingness) either with compositing or not.

                  Looks like the future with KDE4 is compositing.. No space left for non-composite (It's just an ugly DE without composite, no?) ..OH, wait, we have 'aya' theme here. Lucky us
                  Last edited by t.s.; 01-18-2010, 08:26 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by EzInKy View Post
                    ...missing such basic functionality out of the box as right clicking on the desktop for a popup system menu.
                    KDE4 has this.

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                    • #25
                      Yes.

                      I use it all the time to change display settings or whenever I log out.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by krazy View Post
                        KDE4 has this.
                        Originally posted by pingufunkybeat
                        Yes.

                        I use it all the time to change display settings or whenever I log out.
                        I guess I should have said "Application Menu" instead of "System Menu", but to me they are one in the same. No matter really, whatever direction they want to take is fine. They're the ones writing the software after all, and the more they write the more I can use to piece together my "Frankenstein" environment B-)
                        Last edited by EzInKy; 01-19-2010, 01:04 AM.

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                        • #27
                          keyboard short cuts

                          KDE 4.x seems to be missing in keyboard shortcuts. In KDE3 I have global keyboard shortcuts which bring up certain applications. There are also "application shortcuts" you can set for things start of line, end of line, and os, to make your KDE apps, say, emacs like. I haven't been able to figure out how to do either of these things in KDE4.

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                          • #28
                            I'm just wondering why everyone's bashing Dolphin or its default configuration
                            As for me, I really like Dolphin as it's really easy to use and has a nice design (IMO). Its default config is just what an "average" user does need: things like file previews (you can even make it play movies or sounds), flexible file selection via mouse, icon resize by a scrolling bar. All "common" settings like icon display/arrangement style are put together in a nice interface.

                            At least that's my opinion about Dolphin, just to say that there are actually people who like the default config

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by iseggev View Post
                              KDE 4.x seems to be missing in keyboard shortcuts. In KDE3 I have global keyboard shortcuts which bring up certain applications. There are also "application shortcuts" you can set for things start of line, end of line, and os, to make your KDE apps, say, emacs like. I haven't been able to figure out how to do either of these things in KDE4.
                              System Settings > Input Actions (in the General tab)

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                              • #30
                                It funny how many items are being mentioned as being missing from KDE3 but they have just relocated it.

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