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  • OpenChrome: There's Apparently Not Much Left

    Phoronix: OpenChrome: There's Apparently Not Much Left

    While open-source activities around Intel, AMD Radeon, and NVIDIA (Nouveau) hardware continues to flourish, for the unlucky users still dependent upon VIA x86 hardware, the OpenChrome and VIA kernel mode-setting initiatives seem to have come to a standstill...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY5Njc

  • #2
    - OpenChrome.org that was once the project site for this driver has now apparently turned into a travel blog.


    I like that

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    • #3
      via still exists?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by peppercats View Post
        via still exists?
        Probably not They does not update drivers even for Windows in the last two years, and their newsletter stays at that time, forum is 404, so... .

        But thats according to what i see on the web site, bt they have some sales result so who knows .

        http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/p...elease_no=7707
        Last edited by dungeon; 05-21-2014, 09:43 PM.

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        • #5
          hm

          Originally posted by peppercats View Post
          via still exists?
          i think VIA os now part of HTC

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dungeon View Post


            I like that
            This is pure nerd sarcasm!

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            • #7
              OMG. Waaah. Yes, somehow this is bitter irony. Probably in a certain time the driver might not even compile anymore with recent X.orgs, never be ported to Wayland and then you got to use VESA.
              For one part it is sad to see the decline of manifold in terms of GPU manufacturers but on the other hand I'd finally say good riddance VIA. Your chips have plagued me long enough, or better your driver / spec support that wasn't there.
              I also noticed that a lot of mainboards now incorporate more and more Realtek Chips and I see less and less VIA. I am not really into cellphones but I'll make sure to avoid HTC, just to be on the safe side.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                OMG. Waaah. Yes, somehow this is bitter irony. Probably in a certain time the driver might not even compile anymore with recent X.orgs, never be ported to Wayland and then you got to use VESA.
                For one part it is sad to see the decline of manifold in terms of GPU manufacturers but on the other hand I'd finally say good riddance VIA. Your chips have plagued me long enough, or better your driver / spec support that wasn't there.
                I also noticed that a lot of mainboards now incorporate more and more Realtek Chips and I see less and less VIA. I am not really into cellphones but I'll make sure to avoid HTC, just to be on the safe side.
                If Linus Torvalds, personally, acquired microsnot, shut it all down, and transferred its patents to OIN.... would you boycott Linux?

                http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/8/25...ntures-license

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dungeon View Post


                  I like that

                  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Openchrome/

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                  • #10
                    Hi, greetings from VIA. We are still around and definitely not part of HTC.

                    Most of our current products and activities are up at http://www.viaembedded.com/

                    As for OpenChrome, we are looking into the status of things. It would indeed be great to get into the mainline kernel for better maintainability.

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                    • #11
                      Muhah. Sorry Sir.
                      But every five years somebody, who claims (!) to be from VIA, shows up and tells the world that VIA still exists, but far better, that they still "are looking into things" related to Linux.

                      Seriously, if you are from VIA, then you should know by now (unless you were just freshly employed) that there is barely anything VIA does in regards of Linux (or BSD). Besides cheap promises, maybe.

                      I have followed that for about 12 years now (since the introduction of the CLE266, and using KT133a before on my Socket A) and nothing really happened. Besides cheap promises. The hardware itself may fit the purpose but without decent drivers it is useless.
                      It would not even be a horror if VIA had no Linux expertise. There had (!) been enough enthusiasts out there wanting to write drivers. But I guess they were scared off by the lack of documentation and communication.
                      From the user perspective we now had 3 or more generations of drivers. The last one, openchrome slowly starts to rot in its repository. There was never ever 3d, power management seemed to be unknown (does the HW have features for that anyway?) and 2d was of varying quality. MPEG acceleration would or would not work or with artifacts. Not all outputs were supported, so this was a killer for the use in notebooks when you wanted to attach it to a beamer for a presentation. Had to fall back to vesa.
                      So from the user perspective it isn't any better.

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                      • #12
                        If the Via people are reading this, get a grip over Wondermedia and if not start upstreaming, at least release working kernel source for each chip.

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                        • #13
                          embedded hardware must run on linux or bsd!

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                          • #14
                            Very valid criticism. I have joined VIA recently, and one of my aims is to increase our open source contribution. I'm on the ARM side of things, so more familiar with those hardware. Many (but indeed not all yet) of our ARM SoCs have their code opened up more. E.g. the VAB-600 Springboard's kernel and bootloader is up on Github, as does code for the APC series. Others I'm still hunting down. We are talking to the kernel developers to get some "mainline quality" code written and submitted upstream. It's a process, but it is going on.

                            As for OpenChrome, I looked at the git repo and tried to find those from VIA who contributed code before to ask about the project. So far I haven't found one who still works within the company, but I'll keep looking.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by imrehg View Post
                              Very valid criticism. I have joined VIA recently, and one of my aims is to increase our open source contribution. I'm on the ARM side of things, so more familiar with those hardware. Many (but indeed not all yet) of our ARM SoCs have their code opened up more. E.g. the VAB-600 Springboard's kernel and bootloader is up on Github, as does code for the APC series. Others I'm still hunting down. We are talking to the kernel developers to get some "mainline quality" code written and submitted upstream. It's a process, but it is going on.

                              As for OpenChrome, I looked at the git repo and tried to find those from VIA who contributed code before to ask about the project. So far I haven't found one who still works within the company, but I'll keep looking.


                              is that people are working at via able / have the skills to work on openchrome?

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