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  • X.Org Foundation Loses Its 501(c)(3) Status

    Phoronix: X.Org Foundation Loses Its 501(c)(3) Status

    The X.Org Foundation has lost its 501(c)(3) non-profit status and is now seeking new options, including possibly joining a larger organization...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ0MzU

  • #2
    I don't see why he is surprised

    I was taken by surprize that the IRS hit us so rudely.
    What chu talkin about willis? We were warned about organizations like the IRS.

    Among the 27 grievances of the Declaration of Independence, you see this: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    They should consider themselves lucky, if they didn't get audited. That's where the real harassment begins.
    Last edited by halfmanhalfamazing; 08-23-2013, 01:47 PM.

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    • #3
      why US?

      come to europe US sucks

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      • #4
        Dear Oracle Accountant,

        I was surprised the teller wanted me to have funds in my banking account now instead of next week when I get paid too.

        Get off your ass and do your job or hit the bricks. You have a year to get this crap in order and months to file. Dead beat corporations sponsoring any project whether FOSS or not should take note: do your damn job, non-profit or for profit.

        Corporations should have stiffer penalties for being lazy.

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        • #5
          You decided to become a 501c while deciding that you were exempt from filing taxes as an LLC for 3 years... They're lucky that loosing their 501c status is all that is happening to them. Seriously you don't just skip out on something like this.

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          • #6
            This is really sad.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View Post
              Dear Oracle Accountant...
              AFAIK Stuart is not an "Oracle Accountant", he's an "Oracle Principal Software Engineer" who volunteered as X.Org treasurer.
              Last edited by bridgman; 08-23-2013, 03:38 PM.

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              • #8
                This is pretty appalling, especially given the foundation's profile in the free software and world.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                  AFAIK Stuart is not an "Oracle Accountant", he's an "Oracle Principal Software Engineer" who volunteered as X.Org treasurer.
                  That's the biggest problem! He can be a good engineer, but an horrible accountant. They need skilled people to manage the non-technical stuff, as this is a large project that needs promotion and get a lot more management. They need a proper website designer, too.

                  I hope Wayland could make things more dynamic and better, but a proper organization must be there.

                  Seriously, this smells a bit and they need to look at themselves. Despite IRS and such can be a nightmare, other NGOs related to Open/Free Source are there and work a lot better in many ways.

                  I would prefer a graphics-related umbrella organization that manages MESA too, that could be strong enough to even having a chair at organizations like Khronos Group. Something like Open Graphics Foundation

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                  • #10
                    nobody wants to use a display-server made by a for-profit company

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by timofonic View Post
                      That's the biggest problem! He can be a good engineer, but an horrible accountant. They need skilled people to manage the non-technical stuff, as this is a large project that needs promotion and get a lot more management. They need a proper website designer, too.
                      There is not enough money in the foundation to hire such people, and no volunteers stepping forward to it other than the developers.
                      Talking about what other people should do is much easier than stepping forward to do it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by alanc View Post
                        There is not enough money in the foundation to hire such people, and no volunteers stepping forward to it other than the developers.
                        Talking about what other people should do is much easier than stepping forward to do it.
                        Of course, you are right. It's a lot easier talk about what other people should do.

                        But I wondered that having companies like Intel sponsoring the development by hiring people like Keith Packard, they would get enough sponsored to have at least a minimun of non-devs working for essential tasks.

                        The Document Foundation is runned by volunteers and others are hired by other companies, yet they have a nice BoD with even marketing people. But it's a different project, because more people notice an end user application than a graphics subsystem.

                        There are organizations that could help with the non-technical work:

                        - Software Freedom Conservancy.

                        - Software Freedom Law Center.

                        - Software in the Public Interest (already mentioned, LibreOffice is an associated project too).

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                        • #13
                          Software Freedom Law Center already handles the X.Org legal issues, including the 501(c)3 work.

                          SPI & SF Conservancy are already on our list of orgs to look into taking over the fiscal management work for us. Bradley Kuhn from the Conservancy organized a nice preso at OSCON on Non-Profit Organizations for FLOSS Projects that covered these options and others.

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                          • #14
                            This is just sad

                            At this point maybe the foundation just needs to dissolve. I mean, seriously, if you can't do this then what exactly is the foundation doing?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                              At this point maybe the foundation just needs to dissolve. I mean, seriously, if you can't do this then what exactly is the foundation doing?
                              I think the answer would be "doing what they're supposed to" -- organizing conferences to make plans & communicate progress/ideas for the graphics stack, supporting volunteer developers to work on important parts of the stack, etc...

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