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    Phoronix: DRI3 Async Display Flipping For Linux, VBlank Syncing

    While Mir and Wayland are the future of Linux desktop display serving, X11 isn't going to magically disappear in the near-term. X.Org Server releases will keep coming for maintaining support for existing X11 clients, other alternative operating systems and environments where Wayland/Mir don't work, etc. With the X.Org Server still having a future, Keith Packard has been working on some improvements...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQxOTM

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    The beauty of Wayland...

    ...is that X development can go unhindered, while Wayland and/or Weston continue to be developed and perfected. The time of the Linux desktop is now, and (X)Wayland is the bridge to that future. The X folk and Mr Hogsberg played their card at the perfect time. Long live Wayland, X and XWayland!

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    • #3
      "While Mir and Wayland are the future of Linux desktop display"

      really i only see Wayland as the future of Linux desktop display server, i see Mir as the Ubuntu only thing Long Live Xserver

      now its starting to look like to me that Xorg will start moving into wayland little by little

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      • #4
        Wayland is the future.

        Mir is fragmentation and is 10 steps backwards for Linux.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by synaptix View Post
          Wayland is the future.

          Mir is fragmentation and is 10 steps backwards for Linux.
          synaptix , can u enable PM's on the forum? Thanks.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MartinN View Post
            synaptix , can u enable PM's on the forum? Thanks.
            Alright, done.

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            • #7
              With DRI3, which parts of X.org can be thrown out?
              DRI2?
              Is DRI(1) thrown out yet?

              Any other part that can be thrown out?

              I hope they put X.org on a diet, and really cut it down and trim it down and make it light and make it maintainable. But its hard with so much legacy and backwards compatibility.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                With DRI3, which parts of X.org can be thrown out?
                DRI2?
                Is DRI(1) thrown out yet?

                Any other part that can be thrown out?

                I hope they put X.org on a diet, and really cut it down and trim it down and make it light and make it maintainable. But its hard with so much legacy and backwards compatibility.
                DRI2 can definitely be dropped, eventually...DRI1 can too if it hasn't already. The tricky part is that you need an X server that supports DRI3+Present, and a Mesa that uses those. With both projects on different release schedules, the version dependencies can be a bit of a hassle. DRI2 will probably live for a while, until DRI3 becomes commonly available. Then it can go.
                Free Software Developer .:. Mesa and Xorg
                Opinions expressed in these forum posts are my own.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
                  "While Mir and Wayland are the future of Linux desktop display"

                  really i only see Wayland as the future of Linux desktop display server, i see Mir as the Ubuntu only thing Long Live Xserver

                  now its starting to look like to me that Xorg will start moving into wayland little by little
                  The moment Wayland was announced and was backed Xorg decided to start moving little by little into the Wayland architecture (Within the limits of the X protocol) just to make sure applications and toolkits and drivers knew what to expect

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
                    i see Mir as the Ubuntu only thing
                    It's still a Linux flavor.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
                      It's still a Linux flavor.
                      Just like Android.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                        Just like Android.
                        Well, kind of. Ubuntu does have more things in common with GNU/Linux distros than it has different to them. Android is quite more different.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
                          Well, kind of. Ubuntu does have more things in common with GNU/Linux distros than it has different to them. Android is quite more different.
                          So far, but judging by what Canonical has done over the last couple years that might not be the case for much longer.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                            So far, but judging by what Canonical has done over the last couple years that might not be the case for much longer.
                            Might, but as long as it isn't that way, it's still a GNU/Linux flavor. Personally, the only divergence I think they shouldn't do (not that I directly support the others, but I don't think they are problematic) is Mir.
                            As for the others, you might like or dislike some (I like upstart, though I think systemd has superseded it, and I frankly can't stand Unity), but none of them harm anyone because they don't spread the fragmentation.

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                            • #15
                              I love the claims of backwards compatibility. Please. I can't run firefox 4 on ubuntu that came out in 2009 and they care about some motif app made in 1990. who the f** needs to run a motif app while using the latest version of x.org. name me one person. the idea is so retarded that my mind explodes. the "we would break the x rendering protocol if we change x too much" was and is a huge canard. what they are doing with xwayland, they could have done years ago. namely to run x apps with a new architecture side by side. and yet the biggest excuse when the Fresco came out was that "what would happen to all those poor x11 app"

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