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    Phoronix: VIA Kernel Mode-Setting Code Might Merge Soon

    It looks like the VIA kernel mode-setting (KMS) code may soon go mainline...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEzMDU

  • #2
    The twelve VIA linux users around the world are jumping with joy.

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    • #3
      Well, I'll do that as soon as I can use it. Though most of my old CLE266 devices are already falling apart. Maybe my miniITX CN700 will get a share from the KMS cake one day.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mark45 View Post
        The twelve VIA linux users around the world are jumping with joy.
        Hey now, we are at least fifteen out there.

        On a more serious note; I don't know if I even care any more. I own three VIA mini-itx board. I bought them well before Atom was on the marked so there wasn't many alternatives at the time in that form factor. Funny thing is that I initially thought these boards would have awesome Linux support and didn't even bother to check. I certainly got wiser.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by doctoren View Post
          ...I bought them well before Atom was on the marked so there wasn't many alternatives at the time in that form factor. Funny thing is that I initially thought these boards would have awesome Linux support and didn't even bother to check. I certainly got wiser.
          Me too. But initially they had basically a fairly good Linux support, and you could drive about everything with free drivers, normally these were CPU including this padlock crypto engine, chipset with storage, basic I/O, LAN, sound and even the GPU seemed to work. Well sometimes the MPEG2 acceleration seemed to be better in Linux than Windows (in terms of CPU usage) but then I can't remember which driver they were using.
          xf86-video-via was at that time from Luc, later there was unichrome and finally openchrome which I use still since the others went down. Also used vesa but never the proprietary crapthing. And then the frambuffer driver from the kernel didn't really go well with the X part. Nothing that was in mesa ever really worked.
          Well, besides the GPU part one can still use the boards fairly well and the GPU just for simple 2D things.

          But then, as another reason:
          At that time intel and AMD were driving a crazy race of MHz, wasting power and producing heat and thus noise. VIA came in with the C3 and later C7 and these small form factor low energy, passively cooled things looked like the perfect niche market. HTPC and file servers. Would have been great if VIA had given more support. Now intel is having atom and AMD has Z, C and E series covering that area with competitive power consumption, better drivers, features and stability. If this damn UVD issue wasn't there... it would be perfect.

          But I keep my hardware normally as long as possible unless it really wasted power but I don't own that kind of stuff anymore. So I'll also have my C7 for quite some time I guess and maybe one day it'll be more than a text console computer with minimal X capacities.

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          • #6
            Don't those older chips have docs out? http://www.x.org/docs/via/

            Here's your chance to fame, go help Simmons

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            • #7
              1st I heard that docs were never complete. and 2nd: Hey, I hack specific molecules not code.
              I wish I could also do the latter.

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              • #8
                I always wonder, if VIA would be still sinking so badly, if they would have released proper support ages ago. They could have been the mediacenter kings! I guess

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oliver View Post
                  They could have been the mediacenter kings!
                  Quite sure. Okay, others would also have come to the market but they would've had their niche and their fanclub. The product basically would've been great, if the had better support (GPU and all related to it) and if they had sold them passively cooled from the beginning (instead they put loud cheapo fans on their Epia boards). But now in terms of power consumtion all others are quite on par and better with drivers, regardless if they're nv, intel or ati-AMD. And then from the "lower end" ARM stuff is coming, though they have the same horrible GPU problems.

                  But yes, they would've been the first to set their foot there and could have established a reasonable place for them in the market.

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                  • #10
                    I stopped caring about Via when I donated the last of my Socket 7 systems to a recycling center.

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                    • #11
                      Trying to help but not sure where to start

                      I use VIA's latest boards and have been playing with both the latest open source drivers (kms_branch) and VIA's drivers. Hands down, the openchrome is way better but in terms of features the VIA proprietary drivers have more implemented.

                      One issue that I have been having in the latest openchrome is xrandr resizing. It just doesn't seem to work. Now, I have posted several times on the mailing list asking on how to fix it but I haven't gotten a response yet. I wish there was a guide somewhere or even a list of things to read in order to get started with helping out with openchrome. I looked at the code even tried a few patches on my own but it really feels like I'm flying blind without any guide.

                      So I guess my suggestion is that either James or Xavier (the lead) can maybe spend 20-30 mins to come up with a list of their reference documents or any get started links so that any volunteer can help out.

                      Note: This not a rant just a suggestion. Those guys are awesome. Also, a list like I want maybe already available but I haven't seen it

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