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  • #16
    Originally posted by Adarion View Post
    Even though it might be interesting from a power usage p.o.v. and possibly suitable for HTPC it is not interesting due to a lack of drivers or specifications. Looking at VIAs history (windows and linux side) I'll better stay far away from this.
    Even if there was a bibary blob driver the quality would be horrible. And we never really saw any working free driver or specifications suitable for the devs to make their own.
    Via's chips are definitely horrible under Windows and not just Linux (think their old MVP chipsets) It's all just cheap, weak hardware not really worth bothering with.

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    • #17
      Doesn't anyone remember the benchmark of S3's latest generation of cards being faster on Linux than Windows? I am not saying I would buy them. However, several of you are just plain wrong. The latest generation has good blob support, even though the open drivers are quite scary to deal with. It does have VDPAU and 3D acceleration. The question is "is it worth the money?" Unfortunately, the answer is no.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by efikkan View Post
        If they actually managed to create decent GNU/Linux drivers and maybe made them open source, then I think this would be an OK HTPC/low end card. The GPU supports VDPAU and it is present in the driver for the S3 Chrome 500 series, but I haven't tested if it actually works. AMD still lacks video acceleration.
        The AMD problem is far more about IP problems than anything else. However, it does exist, and it DOES work. It may not be the greatest, but it is what we have. Plus, if you are willing to wait, it is a hell of a lot better than Nvidia on the open source side of things. Also, at the same price point, AMD will get you a lot more bang for you buck on Windows OR Linux.

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        • #19
          The only reason I don't think that Via is the worst video/chipset vendor is because SiS already has that honor.

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          • #20
            Okay,


            I think we can finally settle the issue of whether S3's drivers suck once and for all. I'm not talking about the older IGP Chrome HC series ones. Those obviously suck but let's test out the Chrome 400 series and higher will we? I've seen it's performance in windows, it's really not bad and I didn't run across any incompatibilities.

            That was with a Chrome 430 ULP.


            SO, what I suggest is one of the members here or Phoronix try to preorder one of these cards. These S3 cards sell out very quickly for some silly reason or another.

            I will PERSONALLY get 2 of them, one for Windows HTPC usage and the other to stick into a minix 780G running Ubuntu and see if the card's driver issues throttle me. Wish me luck.

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            • #21
              BTw Linux support is mentioned:

              http://resources.e-itx.com/via-eH1/UM_VIA-eH1_060.pdf

              Whether or not in practice is up for testing.

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              • #22
                You are really spending your money on such an uncertain thing? Well, that is either courageous or ... well, foolish

                Indeed the manual says something about
                "Operating System: Windows XP, Windows 7 and Linux" but reading shows limited Windows support (Vista not mentioned, not that Vista would be good for anything...), no BluRay for XP and Linux was mentioned with x86 (so probably no amd64 support).
                99,9 % of the pages show Windows procedures and problems. "Linux" is just mentioned 2 times without any further hint. X.org or something not at all.
                It's your money, I wish you luck but I am sure that you'll find out the many issues soon.

                And I wouldn't spend any money on VIA anymore. Just had years of pain with their stuff (well, mainly the GPU side, the rest was so-so) I'll stay away from them.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Fatfool View Post
                  I will PERSONALLY get 2 of them, one for Windows HTPC usage and the other to stick into a minix 780G running Ubuntu and see if the card's driver issues throttle me. Wish me luck.
                  If you are happy with one driver update per 12 months, don't upgrade your distro ever and don't care about 3d graphics then why not? Please blog/post about your experience, it will help others make more informed decisions - one way or another.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DeepDayze View Post
                    Via's chips are definitely horrible under Windows and not just Linux (think their old MVP chipsets) It's all just cheap, weak hardware not really worth bothering with.
                    MVP? Well, if that's the time scale let's start talking about the i810, i820, AMD-750 and 761, and the NForce 4.

                    Via has had plenty of decent chipsets. They've had their share of horrid ones, like every other manufacturer.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by locovaca View Post
                      MVP? Well, if that's the time scale let's start talking about the i810, i820, AMD-750 and 761, and the NForce 4.

                      Via has had plenty of decent chipsets. They've had their share of horrid ones, like every other manufacturer.
                      Nforce 4 is fine, still rocking on my Linux server-o-box. Not as good as Nforce 2, maybe, (SoundStorm!) but solid nonetheless.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                        Nforce 4 is fine, still rocking on my Linux server-o-box. Not as good as Nforce 2, maybe, (SoundStorm!) but solid nonetheless.
                        Probably not bad as a server but the PCI latency issues make it fairly craptacular for anything that uses audio.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by locovaca View Post
                          MVP? Well, if that's the time scale let's start talking about the i810, i820, AMD-750 and 761, and the NForce 4.

                          Via has had plenty of decent chipsets. They've had their share of horrid ones, like every other manufacturer.
                          I gave the MVP chips as an example of one of their most horrid chipsets ever made (way back around 2000-2001)

                          Their most recent chipsets are a mixed bag though

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DeepDayze View Post
                            I gave the MVP chips as an example of one of their most horrid chipsets ever made (way back around 2000-2001)

                            Their most recent chipsets are a mixed bag though
                            Right, that's my point. MVP were actually 90's, Socket 7 stuff. No point in crucifying companies for decisions they made 6 generations ago. At least, on the chipset front.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by locovaca View Post
                              Probably not bad as a server but the PCI latency issues make it fairly craptacular for anything that uses audio.
                              It served as an XMBC/Nvidia media box before that. Can't say I had any issues with audio latency - not as good as the SoundStorm (3ms ASIO latency!) but not awful either.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by sirdilznik View Post
                                Who in their right mind would ever buy a discrete video card from VIA (or S3 for that matter) regardless of their OS choice? I understand some people might get stuck with an onboard chipset and have to make do, but to actually consciously decide to buy a discrete card from VIA just boggles my mind. I don't even care what the price may be when there are discrete cards from both AMD and nVidia in the $50 range that are at least as powerful and certainly far better supported.
                                How does power consumption of VIA cards compare to NVIDIA/ATI?

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