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    Phoronix: VIA Graphics Still Lack Any Real Linux Progress

    While other hardware vendors are constantly improving their open-source support, this isn't the case for all vendors. VIA's open-source Linux support is still in very bad shape -- two and a half years after they had envisioned themselves becoming open-source friendly...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODgxNg

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    VIA is focused on the embedded market(thin clients), which makes sense. How many machines actually sell with VIA graphics or wireless? They have a priority driver you can get from them, but its very poorly written. Upgrades come only when manufactures request them, and most of them are using older versions.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nukem View Post
      VIA is focused on the embedded market(thin clients), ..
      That's all well and fine, but VIA deserves the wrath for pretending to be interested in delivering decent Linux drivers for their older products.

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      • #4
        Hello,

        Like enybody cares about their open/closed drivers? realy. How many people buys via hardware this days?.

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        • #5
          Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach.

          Linus Torvalds.

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          • #6
            I don't get it. Nowadays Via is a small company in its field, and they mostly do embedded devices and low-power parts, but to run what? Windows XP? If their linux support is as bad as it seems, what kind of market are they after? I could see lots of potential in using a Via system as a low-power media center, but if the graphics drivers are bad that's out of the question.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
              Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach.

              Linus Torvalds.
              That's an epic piece of computer history.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by devius View Post
                I don't get it. Nowadays Via is a small company in its field, and they mostly do embedded devices and low-power parts, but to run what? Windows XP? If their linux support is as bad as it seems, what kind of market are they after? I could see lots of potential in using a Via system as a low-power media center, but if the graphics drivers are bad that's out of the question.
                They are used in many Linux devices, when your a manufacture coming out with VIA hardware they bend over backwards to make sure they're hardware works on whatever platform you need. The problem is all that code is poorly written and never gets released. Not like it really matters though, an Intel Atom with Intel graphics out preforms all of Via stuff.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nukem View Post
                  The problem is all that code is poorly written and never gets released. Not like it really matters though, an Intel Atom with Intel graphics out preforms all of Via stuff.
                  I see. You are right about Atom. And it costs less too, so once again, I fail to see what kind of market Via is after. When Ontario/Zacate comes out it's bound to be used in mini-itx boards, with much better linux support, which will further reduce Via's market share for sure unless they come out with a killer product.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                    Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach.

                    Linus Torvalds.
                    That is funny, but not for all cases.
                    Anyway, he didn't say that, he said "Those that can, do. Those that can't, complain." The person who did say the first thing was George Bernard Shaw. At least that's what wikiquote says http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by nukem View Post
                      an Intel Atom with Intel graphics out preforms all of Via stuff.
                      No. The Nano easily beats Atom: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4017/v...et-previewed/3
                      That's kind of an empty victory though, since Nano's targeting phones and other mobile devices, and has to compete with ARM and AMD (et al.).

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                      • #12
                        Well when I did Linux stuff with VIA i was trying to get my company to push for more open source drivers but I couldn't get enough support for it, they were happy with VIA the way they do things. But as I said VIA's drivers would probably suck anyway. Their wireless driver is open source and is horribly written and at least at one point require WPA supplicant patches. Really it would probably be better to just get specs from them.

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