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  • #16
    I think what eeds to be killed is the dlloader, or at least make it work with 'LD_BIND_NOW=1'.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by devius View Post
      And I'm using the mga driver with an old pci based millenium G200.
      I've got a "rage mobility P/M" in an old laptop(Fujitsu P2110), it uses a small part of the mach64 driver. In fact when i bought the laptop it wasn't supported by any driver at the time, even the mach64 one as it is a variant of the mach64 hardware. It would be a shame to have to retire my "thin terminal"

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      • #18
        My trusty old IBM Thinkpad T23 still uses the Savage driver, so why kill that off as there maybe a lot of machines that have this graphics chipset out there?

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        • #19
          I still have 2 mach64 (GL 1.2 capable) cards and one NeoMagic 256av (Should be capable of some GL... no driver supports 3d on it but the windows one)


          I wish the 3d mach64 driver were fixed at the moment its dog slow.

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          • #20
            Washing something in the washer is a good excuse for a political movement.

            Here we go again another jerk wanting to throw out the baby with the bathwater. "When the 300G has matured." Did they finish the 300 standard edition yet? Is it working at the same speed or better with respect to the Window's XP driver?

            Possibly these guys are just kidding around. There are still people using older chipsets. My radeon 9800 all in wonder still out performs my HD4200. But why AMD doesn't release a recent driver for it is beyond me.

            The conspiracy is that they'll (open source) work hard and develop something that is about 86% by the end of life comparable to their Window's counterparts. Next they'll try throwing out the code and starting over saying it's for the best. (Intel)

            It's never a good idea to throw out and start over. You'll never surpass your previous attempt. Corners get cut and feelings get hurt. The customer is never happy to hear it'll be another 6 months. "Just around the corner" "Almost there" "New and improved"

            I waited 3 years to see performance on my i945.

            Here's a good one. Remember the S3? Used to have support in XFree86. Delegated to the VGA driver now. How long before TNT2 is just VGA. Intel i945 is VGA.

            I was actually surprised to see the Trident Cyberblade performing as well as it did in Ubuntu 10.04. But the XP driver runs circles around it.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by squirrl View Post
              Here we go again another jerk wanting to throw out the baby with the bathwater. "When the 300G has matured." Did they finish the 300 standard edition yet? Is it working at the same speed or better with respect to the Window's XP driver?
              You have very harsh requirements. An open source driver will very likely never match the proprietary blob in terms of speed, simply due to the lack of manpower. Expecting it to be better is extremely optimistic.

              But r300g is already a better driver than r300c. And it is pretty feature complete.

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