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    Phoronix: VIA's Linux Dreams Are Not Materializing

    Back in 2008 there was the announcement from the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit in Texas that VIA had joined the open-source driver bandwagon after having abandoned previous open-source attempts. However, for the past two years, this has largely been a media bluff. VIA Technologies did things like appoint an open-source liaison (Harald Welte, who is actually no longer contracted by VIA and didn't even do much for their efforts), launch a VIA Linux web-site (that is ill-maintained and two years later there are still portions of the site "under construction"), but they have done some things like put out some code and republishing old documentation. We're almost half-way through 2010 and it doesn't look like VIA will be doing much this year for their open-source graphics drivers...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODI3OA

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    I really wish/hope VIA will go forward with their foss initiative, as they provide really good hardware. But alas, it is all just a brick/paper weight if the software for it is not good/non existent.

    Was hoping I could get that neat Via netbook this year, oh well...

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    • #3
      Well there is always openchrome, using it on a HP2133 (PCLinuxOS 2010 KDE, no less) and it works OK, albeit without 3D.

      There was some discussion going on over at the openchrome mailing list almost a year ago, maybe another lead to follow?

      Anyway their Linux portal page is indeed pretty sad IMO. And beside the lack of timely releases, communication/documentation hasn't been VIA's forte from what I've seen.

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      • #4
        Nothing but cheap talk from VIA?
        duh!

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        • #5
          This is really a tragedy, because the space where they really might stand a chance (sff, embedded, thinclient, etc), is the one market segment where linux really matters.

          If they can't figure out how to play in this space, I don't see much of a future for their products.

          Here's hoping I'm wrong...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by phoronix View Post
            Phoronix: VIA's Linux Dreams Are Not Materializing
            This would require them discarding several notions they've been apparently holding dear to them. They need to jettison the blob thinking for starters and give data dumps of the 3D support like AMD has done to be in the game proper.

            The big shame isn't just that they're letting the market segment they are actually playing in slip through their fingers, they've been doing it for YEARS now.

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            • #7
              Not only have their own efforts failed and failed, but when not even Harald Welte can beat things into shape there doesn't seem to be any hope at all...

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              • #8
                It's just sad, if they had great Linux support it would definitely make a difference in their market areas.

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                • #9
                  they simply don't have the skill and intelligence to participate in any kind of OSS development. All their devs know are INT WndProc(HWND, DWORD, WPARAM, LPARAM) and shit. They just can't get their head around the fact that there is any other OS rather than Windows

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                  • #10
                    VIA has responded to Phoronix... Stay tuned for an article tomorrow. The situation is even more interesting now with another twist to the story.
                    Michael Larabel
                    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                    • #11
                      Hopefully *good* news.

                      VIA has a long history of shooting themselves in the foot in many ways. i.e. downgrading from Sanyo to GCS capacitors from Epia->Epia-M, giving the latter a near-100% failure rate. Then keeping the prices so high (>$100) that intel was able to stroll in and grab their market with mini-ITX Atoms (~$80)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Michael View Post
                        VIA has responded to Phoronix... Stay tuned for an article tomorrow. The situation is even more interesting now with another twist to the story.
                        Now you made us curious, Micheal (or just me ?) More opensource news from CPU side are always welcomed..
                        But, I think it's just another episode of 'selling dreams', heh..
                        And yes, like @Chad said, they shoot themselves in the foot: If you give me a choice, wether Intel or VIA, I absolutely choose the first (CHEAPER, and WIDER support).

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                        • #13
                          I was actually browsing the forums the other day for any VIA news. I own 3 VIA boards all bought years ago. I was hugely surprised at the time that the Linux support was/is so poor. As others have pointed out this is really an area were they need to excel. I'm pretty happy with the VIA boards but I gave up on any decent desktop performance long ago. It will be interesting to hear what VIA has to say this time.

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                          • #14
                            Ha. Ha. This is so surprising.

                            Well, as I did before I will not buy or recommend ANY VIA hardware unless I see my oooooooold CLE266 fly. Not even EXA works. It's better than VESA but just that. Can't even accelerate the fbcon.

                            It would be nice since their HW doesn't use much power and they have that fancy padlock, but then they are going to lose this special corner of them sooner or later.

                            Nah, I'll better stay with AMD-ATI. Just got my first accelerated desktop cube recently due to the latest Mesa and kernel stuff. And I have a working fglrx as second option.

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                            • #15
                              VIA's Linux Strategy Takes A Turn With Hidden Driver


                              "Yesterday we reported on VIA's Linux dreams not materializing with their GEM/TTM memory management support still missing even though we are half-way into 2010 -- more than two years after VIA announced its most recent open-source initiative. It turns out, however, for what VIA views as its memory management work is actually done. VIA has inconspicuously handed over some of its code to the OpenChrome developers in order to create a new driver that has been dubbed the "openvia" driver. VIA has supposedly provided the source-code to an X driver plus TTM/GEM DRM, but this new project largely remains a hidden mystery."

                              http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=14963
                              Michael Larabel
                              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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