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  • The First DRM Pull Request For Linux 2.6.35 Kernel

    Phoronix: The First DRM Pull Request For Linux 2.6.35 Kernel

    The Linux 2.6.34 kernel was released only three days ago, but David Airlie has emailed Linus Torvalds and the Linux Kernel Mailing List with the first DRM pull request for the Linux 2.6.35 kernel...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODI2NQ

  • #2
    why losing time working on AGP support, while AGP has been deprecated for so many years now?
    Not a lot of people still have AGP card, and if they have, it's for running servers that just need to display console/TTY. So no need for a particular power from gfx.

    Can someone explain that to me?

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    • #3
      because there still r300 users with no updated fglrx. Those are wishing for fast OS drivers, and ATI seems determined to provide.

      AGP cards aren't only found in servers, but also in older notebooks or even desktops in situations where money is lacking.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Fixxer_Linux View Post
        why losing time working on AGP support, while AGP has been deprecated for so many years now?
        Not a lot of people still have AGP card, and if they have, it's for running servers that just need to display console/TTY. So no need for a particular power from gfx.

        Can someone explain that to me?
        Well, a lot of R300-R500 cards are AGP, mine too. And my Radeon 9500 is on my main desktop!

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        • #5
          Can we get some HW video decode love?

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          • #6
            I have a SparcStation 5 here... better SBUS support would be welcomed mesa 7.4 crashes the X server though admittedly it might work better with Xorg instead of Xsun...

            All semi joking aside AGP is dead but that doesn't mean support should be killed off to when there is no real reason to do so I have 2 Nvidia Geforce MX 400s that run quite fine and even play games (older games actually look better on these).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Fixxer_Linux View Post
              why losing time working on AGP support, while AGP has been deprecated for so many years now?
              Not a lot of people still have AGP card, and if they have, it's for running servers that just need to display console/TTY. So no need for a particular power from gfx.

              Can someone explain that to me?


              Do you have any idea what you just said?

              I've been waiting for proper AGP Support (TTM) on my R500 (X1600pro) since 2008!

              I hope this pull do the trick.

              There are lots of AGP cards out there!


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              • #8
                Originally posted by hobbes View Post


                Do you have any idea what you just said?

                I've been waiting for proper AGP Support (TTM) on my R500 (X1600pro) since 2008!

                I hope this pull do the trick.

                There are lots of AGP cards out there!


                Sure. And you are free to add support for it. But when AMD employees spend a disproportionate amount of time on AGP and other legacy support I find this quite problematic. An hour spent on legacy support is an hour not spent on support for more recent hardware. And this is precisely an area where AMD is lacking.

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                • #9
                  Nouveau

                  The absence of anything relating to Nouveau isn't necessarily a bad thing - it may indicate that the devs are happy with the kernel layer for the moment, and spending all their time on the userspace code. That's the important part, after all - now that modesetting works pretty well, the biggest issues are things like OpenGL, or accelerated video, all userspace...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fixxer_Linux View Post
                    why losing time working on AGP support, while AGP has been deprecated for so many years now?
                    Iirc at least (ATi) r600 cards were still sold with AGP. It's deprecated technology, yes, but nowhere near being abandoned by users. I'm unsure if newer chips than r600 were sold on AGP cards too.

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                    • #11
                      a quick check at my favorite vendor reveals that I could still buy a HD 46xx for AGP today. That's r700.

                      Anything faster wouldn't be useful, most AGP machines have an older, slow CPU that cannot utilize a high-end GPU anyway. Good luck finding something with a recent CPU socket and an AGP slot.

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                      • #12
                        what? ur joking? i have a mainboard (asrock 4core dual sata ) that support a quad core and hs agp :P

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by monraaf View Post
                          Sure. And you are free to add support for it. But when AMD employees spend a disproportionate amount of time on AGP and other legacy support I find this quite problematic. An hour spent on legacy support is an hour not spent on support for more recent hardware. And this is precisely an area where AMD is lacking.
                          Did you see any AMD employees working on AGP at all?

                          Most of the AGP patches are from community members who really can work on what they like.

                          Dave.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lolren View Post
                            what? ur joking? i have a mainboard (asrock 4core dual sata ) that support a quad core and hs agp :P
                            I had one of those too, but it also features a PCI-e slot right beside the AGP one, so stop being sneaky

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by airlied View Post
                              Did you see any AMD employees working on AGP at all?
                              You're right my mistake. Not so much AGP this year, just some other commits for r1xx/r2xx. Which are ~10 years old. I can't wait to get my Evergreen support in 2020. LOL.

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