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  • #31
    Originally posted by Apopas View Post
    Whenever you use ndiswrapper your system crashes?
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=asus+eeepc+t91+linux+problems

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    • #32
      Right! Now I have to search for a variety of problems in a variety of distros.
      Again, does this netbook crash in every distro whenever ndiswrapper is in use?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Apopas View Post
        Right! Now I have to search for a variety of problems in a variety of distros.
        Again, does this netbook crash in every distro whenever ndiswrapper is in use?
        What freaking distro do you want to use in the first place?

        What do you expect me to do? Ask it for you on 400 different mailing lists?

        It... Just... Doesn't... Work...

        If you want to waste your time with proprietary Windows 7 drivers under ndiswrapper and a tablet that doesn't flip the screen while being turned and a shitload of other problems... be my guest.

        If you have at least half a brain and want a Linux netbook than you would either wait for it to become fully supported or you buy an other netbook...

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        • #34
          I didn't say even think half of the things you suppose I did. Not mialing lists, not incompatible with Linux netbokks no...
          Ofcourse ndiswrapper is rather away from my first choice, but you said it crashes your entire system. Obviously this is not the rule for every distro, I have installed Linux in dozens of netbboks and I mean it. Some of them needed ndiswrapper, which fortunately worked fine.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Apopas View Post
            I didn't say even think half of the things you suppose I did. Not mialing lists, not incompatible with Linux netbokks no...
            Yes you did:
            Again, does this netbook crash in every distro whenever ndiswrapper is in use?
            There are over 400 distro's... 400 mailing lists. What other other wat to figure that out?

            Ofcourse ndiswrapper is rather away from my first choice, but you said it crashes your entire system.
            Ubuntu forums, EeePC forums and Linuxquestions confirm the crashes.

            Obviously this is not the rule for every distro, I have installed Linux in dozens of netbboks and I mean it. Some of them needed ndiswrapper, which fortunately worked fine.
            Whatever man... If you want to buy a netbook that isn't fully supported... at all... and want to ignore the warnings from various Linux forums, knock yourself out...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
              Let's see... There is no open source driver to begin with and the proprietary WiFi driver crashes the entire system...

              Still interested? And let's not even talk about the 3G driver... Yes that's right... your netbook will be as portable as the radius of the nearest ethernet cable...

              Have a nice T91 experience
              Open source, built into the kernel, ATH9k!!!
              To rephrase that... wifi works out of the box!!!

              3g? There is NO 3G HARDWARE! So how could 3G possibly work?

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              • #37
                To make this perfectly clear;

                The ONLY hardware that is incompletely supported is the video chip, since it is poulsbo. But VESA works just fine. The screen resolution is low, so it doesn't take much.

                The wireless stuff works perfectly with no weird ndiswrapper. Out of the box!!

                There are NO WEIRD FREEZUPS like some here have suggested.


                Talk about compatibility research? How about empirical evidence? I *have* the hardware. Working. Near 100%.

                The ONLY TWO THINGS that don't completely work are;
                1) video chip. I don't give a rat's ass about that since the resolution is low enough that it simply doesn't matter.
                2) touchscreen... but that is what this article was about... multitouch support on linux, including specifically T91MT.


                Note for all those too stupid to read... T91 is != T91MT.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                  Yes you did:
                  V!NCENT: "There is no open source driver to begin with and the proprietary WiFi driver crashes the entire system..."
                  Apopas: "In what distro?"
                  V!NCENT: "In Linux? ndiswrapper is needed. Or at least it was half a year ago. Maybe you're lucky..."
                  Apopas: "Whenever you use ndiswrapper your system crashes?"

                  And then you gave me the link about the general distros and the general problems while I only made just questions for a very specific thing. But instead of clarifing this simple and specific thing I asked for, you begun to generalize it. I'm not a newbie to forums and I've seen this way of "conversations" a lot. So sorry, I don't want to waste my time with disagreements for the simplest facts.
                  Consider that this conversation is never made.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                    The ONLY hardware that is incompletely supported is the video chip, since it is poulsbo. But VESA works just fine. The screen resolution is low, so it doesn't take much.
                    What about the TV tuner? The 180* rotation of the screen? The button on the screen? What about the SIM card slot?

                    The wireless stuff works perfectly with no weird ndiswrapper. Out of the box!!
                    Out of what box? Ubuntu? Ubuntu does ship with ndiswrapper drivers. But maybe there has been a new FLOSS driver recently?

                    Talk about compatibility research? How about empirical evidence? I *have* the hardware. Working. Near 100%.
                    So it isn't completely working...

                    Note for all those too stupid to read... T91 is != T91MT.
                    The only different is the multi-touch screen and the size of the SSD drive.

                    3g? There is NO 3G HARDWARE! So how could 3G possibly work?
                    Open up the buttom of the netbook. There is a SIM card slot.
                    Last edited by V!NCENT; 12-27-2009, 06:54 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Google Chrome Is A Disgrace

                      Originally posted by Louise View Post
                      Use Google Chrome and install this Chrome extension

                      https://chrome.google.com/extensions...gplihnenhgeipf

                      it makes all youtube videos to html5.
                      While I agree that youtube is pants, Google Chrome is even worse. I cannot believe a linux user is seriously advocating Chrome, containing as it does, a plethora of intrusive malware. But don't take my word for it, just hook up wireshark and see what data is being sent out from your computer without your knowledge or consent ...

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by gordboy View Post
                        While I agree that youtube is pants, Google Chrome is even worse. I cannot believe a linux user is seriously advocating Chrome, containing as it does, a plethora of intrusive malware. But don't take my word for it, just hook up wireshark and see what data is being sent out from your computer without your knowledge or consent ...
                        Chromium only has the same 'tracking' features as Firefox (I'm talking about chromium not chrome).

                        Those features are:
                        • Getting autocompletion data from google/what-ever-is-you-search-engine
                        • Getting lists of malicious sites from google

                        Both of which can be disabled.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                          What about the TV tuner? The 180* rotation of the screen? The button on the screen? What about the SIM card slot?
                          TV Tuner: non existent.
                          screen rotation: ?? who cares. No actual reason for it. And in any case, screen rotation is managed by xrandr, which means it is a function of the video drivers. Which means that it is not a separate issue. The button is easily caught and mapped to xrandr.
                          Sim card slot: There IS NONE.

                          Out of what box? Ubuntu?
                          Fedora 12. Ubuntu is too useless for me.
                          Ubuntu does ship with ndiswrapper drivers.
                          So? I'm sure that ubuntu doesn't ship with all of the multitude of windoze drivers pre-installed, and I certainly wouldn't taint my system with a windoze driver.
                          But maybe there has been a new FLOSS driver recently?
                          Can you not read? I already said ATH9K. That is the driver used by the wireless card on this device. It is sitting right here in front of me working wireless network using ath9k.

                          So it isn't completely working...
                          aside from video acceleration and touch screen (poulsbo drivers work up to xserver 1.6, not in 1.7 -- I'm sure I could just downgrade the xserver to 1.6, but since vesa serves my needs just fine, I won't bother wasting my time with that...), yes, it IS COMPLETELY WORKING 100%.


                          The only different is the multi-touch screen and the size of the SSD drive.
                          Might want to do a little more research on that pal.


                          Open up the buttom of the netbook. There is a SIM card slot.
                          No there isn't. And since you don't have one of these and *I DO*, you are not qualified to say -- but I am.

                          Even if there was, it is a totally useless thing to have. Like I'm going to pay for an additional data plan for every portable device I own. No, I'm certainly not going to do that. I'm just going to pay for ONE data plan for MY PHONE (which is *always* with me), and plug it into whatever else I happen to be using at the moment. This, of course, uses standard USBNET driver.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                            TV Tuner: non existent.
                            screen rotation: ?? who cares. No actual reason for it.
                            Flipping your netbook everytime you flip the screen is a little annoying...

                            Sim card slot: There IS NONE.
                            Did you unscrew the bottom lid where the RAM is?

                            Can you not read? I already said ATH9K.
                            Yes I did. Rethorical question.

                            Might want to do a little more research on that pal.
                            The research was kind of outdated I guess? (rethorical)

                            No there isn't. And since you don't have one of these and *I DO*, you are not qualified to say -- but I am.
                            The TV tuner is optional, but it's there in the specs on the ASUS website. As far as the SIM card slot goes, it was there in the pre-production model, under the casing (you nees to unscrew that slot where your RAM is. Really sad that they scrapped this, IF they scrapped this. COuld you please lool under that lid?

                            Even if there was, it is a totally useless thing to have. Like I'm going to pay for an additional data plan for every portable device I own. No, I'm certainly not going to do that. I'm just going to pay for ONE data plan for MY PHONE (which is *always* with me), and plug it into whatever else I happen to be using at the moment. This, of course, uses standard USBNET driver.
                            Hms... In my country you can get unlimited 3G internet for about 5 euro's a month... max. I wouldn't mind paying 5 euros/dollars max per month to get wireless internet wherever I go...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                              Flipping your netbook everytime you flip the screen is a little annoying...
                              Well moot now, since I now have it at 100% (xrandr included) with an unholy mix of Fedora 12, Fedora 11, and some wonderful hacker code to get the touchscreen working.

                              Did you unscrew the bottom lid where the RAM is?
                              Would you like me to post a picture of where the sim slot isn't?

                              Yes I did. Rethorical question.
                              The research was kind of outdated I guess? (rethorical)
                              Things move very very fast in this business...

                              The TV tuner is optional, but it's there in the specs on the ASUS website. As far as the SIM card slot goes, it was there in the pre-production model, under the casing (you nees to unscrew that slot where your RAM is. Really sad that they scrapped this, IF they scrapped this. COuld you please lool under that lid?
                              Really... it's not there. There's blanks on the board for where it would go, but nothing on it.

                              Hms... In my country you can get unlimited 3G internet for about 5 euro's a month... max. I wouldn't mind paying 5 euros/dollars max per month to get wireless internet wherever I go...
                              Well you're lucky. Up until a little over a week ago, it was $80/5GB here... now its $35 unlimited thanks to a new provider that insists on shaking things up (Canada).

                              But still... I wouldn't pay anything at all for it since its just more crap to keep track of. Got everything I need through my phone (android = linux = woohoo!)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                                Would you like me to post a picture of where the sim slot isn't?
                                Skip tot 5:45min:
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shta5kkK4wg

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