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  • #16
    Well i hope that the driver is rejected from the kernel until there's full documentation.
    I don't like the idea of an kernel driver that needs an binary blob for 3D.
    I hope VIA one day can be as helpful as ATI against the community, but i doubt it.
    Intel and ATI shows that it can be done.
    So do you think the next generation of VIA graphics will be fully open source?

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    • #17
      Last time I criticized VIA for their (lack of) work on Chrome 9 I got answers from BruceChang and Jon Nettleton that I'm wrong and they just need some time. Yeah, sure. Once again we received nice "F you" :/

      Check out "Chrome 9" thread in these two months:
      http://wiki.openchrome.org/pipermail...hread.html#347
      http://wiki.openchrome.org/pipermail...hread.html#385

      Come on, how many ppl they need to hire to work on open source driver? I'm sure AMD provided it's not a big amount to have nice effects.

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      • #18
        VIA is always 'the piece of shit' IMO. I do everything I can to stop people from buying VIA products because it really sux. Now the worst has become even worse. How good could that be?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Regenwald View Post
          as i already pointed out in another thread, intel seems to open up the pulsbo driver in q4 in 2009
          If that's the case, then there's been a shift in attitude by Imagination- which would be a rather pleasant surprise. It also translates into access to make FOSS drivers for the OMAP3 GPU since they're in the same series.

          But, I'm not holding my breath on it. I'll believe that one when I see it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
            VIA hasn't been seriously pursuing the gamer/enthusiast market for years; they've been setting the standards for small, low-power PC systems. Intel and Nvidia are just now getting around to producing stuff that can compete with VIA in this space.
            Let me fix this for you:

            ...they've been setting the standards for small, low-power, HIGH PRICED PC systems...

            and their market evaporated almost immediately after the atom came out.

            VIA's history has been about conscienciously squandering every opportunity they ever had. This is no different.

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            • #21
              Now that's a pity. I was really looking into buying the Samsung NC20... it looks like a nice little thing. :/

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              • #22
                I wonder what's keeping VIA alive at this point? Microsoft bribes?

                Their hardware hasn't been worth buying for a long time - other IGPs are already good enough for Windows users who are only interested in shiny window borders, and their track record of instability makes it unacceptable for people who want their OS to actually work.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ant P. View Post
                  I wonder what's keeping VIA alive at this point? Microsoft bribes?
                  Probably just coasting on past successes. They seem to be losing money, but it also seems that they've been able to more or less afford it so far. I'm no business expert, but I get the impression that they'll fold if they don't score a major success in the next few years or so. OTOH, maybe the parent company (a major Taiwanese chemical conglomerate) will decide to keep them around just for the sake of having a local vendor of PC platform chips...

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                  • #24
                    I think that we should be thankful for those companies that have given open source drivers and documentation, but also respect the choise of those others that are unwilling or unable to do so. Free software is more like a GIFT than a vested right!

                    For the record, I own a VIA EPIA SN motherboard and I know first hand how bad their drivers are. All in all I find this "EITHER open source/documentation OR we crucify you" mentality harmful.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ant P. View Post
                      I wonder what's keeping VIA alive at this point? Microsoft bribes?
                      I have no idea of that but they did join M$ on the hardware DRM issue around the time when Vista came out.
                      Originally posted by Formerly from VIA Arena
                      VIA has taken a novel approach to security that deviates greatly from current DRM-driven industry trends. Instead of siding with the decidedly unpopular requests of the music and movie industry and implementing "sneakware" technology that prevents fair use copying (and even provides backdoors that can potentially allow governments and big businesses to secretly snoop the bits of your drive) VIA provides a plethora of extremely powerful hardware based security features that empower the end user, while remaining flexible enough to be used by content providers - without any sneakware.
                      I purchased a VIA based system back then because of this stance. These days Trusted Computing tech is inside their Nano CPU's and many of their mobos have TPM's It appears to me that Via believed that their M$ customers were in the majority and so they hung their other customers out dry, but I can't think of anybody who would ever want to buy a Via system to run a M$ OS (especially Vista.)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
                        I think that we should be thankful for those companies that have given open source drivers and documentation, but also respect the choise of those others that are unwilling or unable to do so. Free software is more like a GIFT than a vested right!
                        They have the right to make it a pain in the ass for open-source operating systems to support their hardware, and I have the right to spend my money somewhere else and tell others my reasons for doing so.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
                          Free software is more like a GIFT than a vested right!
                          Limited copyright is a gift. Some greedy companies see eternal copyright as their right.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
                            They have the right to make it a pain in the ass for open-source operating systems to support their hardware, and I have the right to spend my money somewhere else and tell others my reasons for doing so.
                            Yep. Exactly.

                            By the way also Windows users suffer from closed drivers, I remember the many hassels I heard people had when older Windows versions were no more supported or when and older hardware would not run in a newer Windows environment. Or if a driver was shoddy and nobody could repair it.

                            Iirc. a faulty printer driver (closed source) was the reason for rms to found the fsf. Nobody could fix it and the manufracturer did not want to.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                              I hope you understand that is not happening before 2011.
                              Hardly... AMD has their own people working on it - glxgears is (kinda) working in Mesa master on 4xxx's now. I think the driver'll be in good shape in Ubuntu 10.04, if not even 9.10.

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                              • #30
                                I remember many months ago when VIA were releasing the documentation that I said words to the effect of: VIA will dump some/the documentation then sit back and go "why should we? Here's the documentation you do it".

                                I. Was. Right.

                                VIA's products in recent years have yet to impress me. From the mini-ITX board that died after 6 months of use (1 year + in storeage so no warranty) due to bad caps, the SATA controller that wouldn't see SATA drives through to an old super socket 7 board who's AGP port wasn't quite as up to the specifications as it ought to have been.

                                VIA, SiS and PC Chips (are they even still around?) wouldn't touch any of them with a barge pole personally.

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