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    Phoronix: Red Hat Developers Propose Wayland For Fedora 21

    After being an optional, experimental feature in Fedora 20, Wayland with GNOME 3.14 might be getting ready to take on the default Fedora 21 desktop...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY3NjI

  • #2
    This is great news. Gnome is on the right track.

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    • #3
      what is missing for nvidia to support wayland? i remember people often claimed lack of EGL is the reason, but i think they shipped that with last driver.

      is there something else that's missing?

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      • #4
        Yes... I've been waiting for wayland to hit the distros.

        I will switch to linux when I know I will have a tear free environment. :-D

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        • #5
          Where's the monkey suit?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ua=42 View Post
            Yes... I've been waiting for wayland to hit the distros.

            I will switch to linux when I know I will have a tear free environment. :-D
            This might help.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by justmy2cents View Post
              what is missing for nvidia to support wayland? i remember people often claimed lack of EGL is the reason, but i think they shipped that with last driver.

              is there something else that's missing?
              It lacks a KMS driver. But only if they go open source
              You can use Noveau's

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              • #8
                Originally posted by justmy2cents View Post
                what is missing for nvidia to support wayland? i remember people often claimed lack of EGL is the reason, but i think they shipped that with last driver.

                is there something else that's missing?
                They either need to add support for the EGL DRM extension, or they need to write a wayland backend which supports their driver. The 2nd is most likely the direction they'll go, and it's similar to what they're already doing for X.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                  They either need to add support for the EGL DRM extension, or they need to write a wayland backend which supports their driver. The 2nd is most likely the direction they'll go, and it's similar to what they're already doing for X.
                  yea. that would make sense for them to do.

                  Originally posted by rxonda View Post
                  It lacks a KMS driver. But only if they go open source
                  You can use Noveau's
                  sadly, nouveau is far from being ready. if i pick machine for OSS drivers it will be best supported amd graphic card at that time without question, but if i need 3d (gaming or coding) i go with nvidia and blob. if you need gl4+ now there is simply no other choice than proprietary, but by the time i'll be remotely finished mesa will most surely already support it

                  afaik, as far as KMS goes wayland doesn't depend on it, just compositors and those can easily be written without KMS. off course, weston or mutter are out of question then, though i only care aboiut enlightenment anyway (also kms, sigh)

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                  • #10
                    This is great news, and fits well with the release delay they planned on doing anyway.

                    As far as the blob drivers go, they are not a target for Fedora, so how far along they are when it comes to supporting Wayland is probably of very little importance to them.

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                    • #11
                      I would have thought they would make an offical update to Gnome 3.12 for Fedora 20 to enable easier testing before pushing out wayland as a default in Fedora 21.

                      Update: Ok they dont say it will be the default. "Wayland with GNOME 3.14 might be getting ready to take on the default Fedora 21 desktop" That line was misleading.
                      Last edited by tarceri; 04-30-2014, 02:15 AM.

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                      • #12
                        What I find funny about this is that, after all Canonical's hype about Mir being ready sooner (and standard in 13.10 ), Wayland could well end up on a major distro first.
                        Depends on the exact release date for 'Utopic' and whether Fedora avoid another round of schedule slips, but there won't be more than a few weeks in it either way.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FLHerne View Post
                          Depends on the exact release date for 'Utopic' and whether Fedora avoid another round of schedule slips, but there won't be more than a few weeks in it either way.
                          Has Fedora ever shipped on time? There seems to be delays of weeks in each version.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FLHerne View Post
                            What I find funny about this is that, after all Canonical's hype about Mir being ready sooner (and standard in 13.10 ), Wayland could well end up on a major distro first.
                            Depends on the exact release date for 'Utopic' and whether Fedora avoid another round of schedule slips, but there won't be more than a few weeks in it either way.
                            No wayland will not be ready for productive use in this year and the next year just as Mir
                            Fedora is beta lab

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rxonda View Post
                              It lacks a KMS driver. But only if they go open source
                              You can use Noveau's
                              What the NVIDIA's driver lacks to get Wayland support is a few Wayland-specific EGL extensions and a kernel modesetting interface, but it doesn't necessarily have to be *KMS* or even open source. AFAIK they already have one (or used to?) except there's no public interface for it to be used directly from the kernel, hence why you can't change the f**#!ing console resolution when using NVIDIA's blob.
                              Last edited by Scias; 04-30-2014, 07:32 AM.

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