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  • #16
    Oh wow, a desktop system where you can't alt+tab. I'm impressed :-P

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    • #17
      Originally posted by RealNC View Post
      Oh wow, a desktop system where you can't alt+tab. I'm impressed :-P
      So, now Weston is a "desktop system"?
      I can't image how thousand of end users can work on their "Weston desktop system" without Alt+Tab... oh, wait, maybe is just a compositor implementation of the Wayland's protocol, written for development, where Alt+Tab is a so critical feature that can wait the next release cycle without nobody care less.
      :-)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BSDude View Post
        Isn't Openbox or Fluxbox ported yet to Wayland?
        I doubt they will ever be. They are getting a small commit every two or three months, since at least two years.

        Originally posted by Temlar View Post
        Btw. Weston is best implementation of Wayland protocol we have sofar
        Best, regarding what? It's pretty subjective what weighs the most here. Orbital is probably far better, although I haven't used either.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
          Oh wow, a desktop system where you can't alt+tab. I'm impressed :-P
          Well, we had a display server which relied on X.org to do everything, and it almost did it into production.

          See, we can troll, too, yay!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kostas View Post
            No matter how many times I've read the name of their merged project it just can't stick to mind, always refer to it as Razor-qt since I never really bothered with the previous attempt.
            You're not the only person who would prefer someone else but the current attitude is "Discussing the name can wait until we've recovered from the holiday productivity slump and have something solid to attach the name to."

            My suggestion, coming from the LXDE side, was LQDE (Lightweight Qt Desktop Environment) since it's descriptive, familiar to existing LXDE users, and acknowledges the new direction (Qt-based, not planning to die out when X11 gives way to Wayland).

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            • #21
              I wonder if you all remember, that before this "alt-tab", Weston got "exposť", and a long long time before that it got "super-tab" (super is the default "alt" key of Weston). In essence, this is a third different way of picking a new window to focus.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by valeriodean View Post
                So, now Weston is a "desktop system"?
                I can't image how thousand of end users can work on their "Weston desktop system" without Alt+Tab... oh, wait, maybe is just a compositor implementation of the Wayland's protocol, written for development, where Alt+Tab is a so critical feature that can wait the next release cycle without nobody care less.
                :-)
                No idea if it's a desktop system or not. Or what a desktop system is. I was reading the article and got the impression that you can't alt+tab out of full screen applications with Wayland. Which sounds ridiculous, because alt+tabbing is such an important thing that people must be able to do. It's taken for granted.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                  No idea if it's a desktop system or not. Or what a desktop system is. I was reading the article and got the impression that you can't alt+tab out of full screen applications with Wayland. Which sounds ridiculous, because alt+tabbing is such an important thing that people must be able to do. It's taken for granted.
                  Wayland and Weston are different things. You can't alt+tab with Weston. You can with other compositors.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
                    Wayland and Weston are different things. You can't alt+tab with Weston. You can with other compositors.
                    Different things yes. Wayland has nothing to do with this. Switching between apps/windows is purely a compositor feature.

                    Why are you saying such a thing about Weston?

                    Window switching by keyboard shortcut has been present in Weston since February 2011:
                    http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/...20d62e673d3a4e

                    It was super+tab, not alt+tab, is that your point? Or did it not work with fullscreen apps?

                    In November 2013 Weston got exposay:
                    http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/...05d088d7592e4c
                    which is another way to switch between windows, initiated by keyboard, used by pointer.

                    If these things have bugs with fullscreen apps, please report those bugs.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pq__ View Post
                      Different things yes. Wayland has nothing to do with this. Switching between apps/windows is purely a compositor feature.

                      Why are you saying such a thing about Weston?

                      Window switching by keyboard shortcut has been present in Weston since February 2011:
                      http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/...20d62e673d3a4e

                      It was super+tab, not alt+tab, is that your point? Or did it not work with fullscreen apps?

                      In November 2013 Weston got exposay:
                      http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/...05d088d7592e4c
                      which is another way to switch between windows, initiated by keyboard, used by pointer.

                      If these things have bugs with fullscreen apps, please report those bugs.
                      No, my point was that it doesn't matter at all. One should not look at Weston (at least, pure Weston) if one is not a developer looking for references or for a testbed, period. End users shouldn't care about what Weston is or is not capable to do, because it's not intended for them, but some people seem to forget in a daily basis about that.

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