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  • GNOME Shell Wayland Benchmarks From Fedora 20

    Phoronix: GNOME Shell Wayland Benchmarks From Fedora 20

    While an X.Org Server is still used by default on Fedora 20 "Heisenbug", Wayland has become a viable option for early adopters and developers wishing to work on Wayland software compatibility and/or testing. All the packages are needed on a Fedora 20 installation to launch a GNOME Wayland session and begin working, including support for XWayland in order to run X11-dependent games and applications.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=19517

  • #2
    Why is Wayland faster in the GtkComboBox test? Just curious. Is this path in Gtk specificly optimized for Wayland?

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    • #3
      Pretty much everything in this benchmark is effectively testing the overhead of using XWayland, rather than anything to do with Gnome Shell. And that might be reflective of how things work for the time being, but are there any benchmarks that can usefully compare Gnome-on-X with Gnome-on-Wayland, without the bottleneck of XWayland?

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      • #4
        where are the "wayland 4ever - mir suck" comments?

        Trolls....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by verde View Post
          where are the "wayland 4ever - mir suck" comments?

          Trolls....
          ...said one troll to another.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by verde View Post
            where are the "wayland 4ever - mir suck" comments?
            Mir is pure shite. Even if wayland had 50% worse performance I'd still choose it over sucky mir.

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            • #7
              I rest my case, that trolling will never change someone's opinion on a subject.

              Further study necessary, but interesting none the less.

              Back on topic...as was mentioned in the first comment, these benchmarks almost all test purely xwayland against X11. It'd be nice to see some benchmarks without any X-shims, wayland or mir, though I understand that X-less benchmarks are rare at the moment.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nobu View Post
                ...said one troll to another.
                Originally posted by xnor View Post
                Mir is pure shite. Even if wayland had 50% worse performance I'd still choose it over sucky mir.
                Am I the "one troll"? If truth about Ubuntu related threads situation is trolling, then I am.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by verde View Post
                  Am I the "one troll"? If truth about Ubuntu related threads situation is trolling, then I am.
                  Since when was this a Ubuntu related thread?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by verde View Post
                    Am I the "one troll"? If truth about Ubuntu related threads situation is trolling, then I am.
                    It was directed at trolls, and appeared to be a taunting remark, thus troll trolling trolls. o_o

                    Sorry, I can't keep a straight face after saying that. XD

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                    • #11
                      Why these benchmarks target X11 directly instead SDL to make them window system agnostic?

                      Can you have SDL libraries for the X11 backend and another for wayland backend installed in the same system?
                      Last edited by newwen; 12-26-2013, 07:33 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Michael is right, performance are not becoming better yet. And there's no reason for that right now. The main point now is make things work at least in XWayland. Later, apps supported by Wayland will appear and we start to seek bottlenecks and enhance code.

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                        • #13
                          Like the others said, take any game you could possibly run on SDL for Wayland and compare it with the same game on XWayland or X11. Certainly this is possible with some work? That's where the really interesting comparisons would lie, even if it's not purely scientific. Perhaps next year these kinds of tests will become more common.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by scionicspectre View Post
                            Like the others said, take any game you could possibly run on SDL for Wayland and compare it with the same game on XWayland or X11. Certainly this is possible with some work? That's where the really interesting comparisons would lie, even if it's not purely scientific. Perhaps next year these kinds of tests will become more common.
                            Most of the games tested haven't even been ported to SDL2 yet, at least not in released form, which is a prereq for using the Wayland back-end.
                            Michael Larabel
                            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
                              Since when was this a Ubuntu related thread?
                              Since when all the other Mir threads where related to Wayland?

                              I don't say that for you personally. I am just tired of those comments and thats why I did this comment. My mistake that I feed the trolls.

                              Lets get this thread back on track.

                              Originally posted by rudregues View Post
                              Michael is right, performance are not becoming better yet. And there's no reason for that right now. The main point now is make things work at least in XWayland. Later, apps supported by Wayland will appear and we start to seek bottlenecks and enhance code.
                              Why everyone expect Wayland and/or Mir to offer better berformance than Xorg? Their existence has to do with better quality, not performance. Am I wrong?
                              Last edited by verde; 12-27-2013, 02:29 AM.

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