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  • GNOME Shell 3.10 Is Ready To Shine On Wayland

    Phoronix: GNOME Shell 3.10 Is Ready To Shine On Wayland

    GNOME Shell 3.9.92 was released this morning as the GNOME Shell 3.10 release candidate. With this latest release of the core GNOME 3 user-interface, the Wayland branch has been merged!..

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ2NDA

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    Is there some Debian-based distribution with good Wayland support? I like Fedora, I just don't like RPM and the package management...

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    • #3
      I wonder when Fedora 20 picks this update.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by amehaye View Post
        Is there some Debian-based distribution with good Wayland support? I like Fedora, I just don't like RPM and the package management...
        aptosid or siduction...

        But you're probably better off with fedora since it integrates systemd and gnome better.

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        • #5
          I hope this won't be too painful to set up in Arch, since that's probably the most feasible way to really use it before Fedora 20.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by amehaye View Post
            Is there some Debian-based distribution with good Wayland support? I like Fedora, I just don't like RPM and the package management...
            Would you explain what you don't like about rpm/yum?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by scionicspectre View Post
              I hope this won't be too painful to set up in Arch, since that's probably the most feasible way to really use it before Fedora 20.
              Why should it be? Once 3.10 moves into [extra] repo you simply update your system, that's it. You'll have the wayland package installed already anyway, because gtk3 and mesa pull it as a dependency.

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              • #8
                Great news!

                I should try this out on my test machine.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by amehaye View Post
                  Is there some Debian-based distribution with good Wayland support? I like Fedora, I just don't like RPM and the package management...
                  https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing

                  And eventually...

                  https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+...gnome3-staging

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                  • #10
                    Maybe a Kubuntu based? (RebeccaBlackOS)

                    Originally posted by amehaye View Post
                    Is there some Debian-based distribution with good Wayland support? I like Fedora, I just don't like RPM and the package management...
                    http://sourceforge.net/projects/rebeccablackos/

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                    • #11
                      I'm a pretty happy KDE user now, but I've used Gnome Shell for over a year before that. While KDE has some nice functionality I wish Gnome would take note of, it's also very cluttered and not as user-friendly as Gnome, IMO. Gnome's designs are pretty, and basic, which is what attracted me to it in the beginning (though ultimately, KWin's performance and some of KDE's customization won me over).

                      Here's a good write up of Gnome 3.10's Client Side Decorations from The World of Gnome folks: http://worldofgnome.org/csds-came-to...in-gnome-3-10/

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                      • #12
                        Really looking forward to Wayland.
                        But its too bad XWayland is still not in X.org.
                        And too bad Debian (and Ubuntu) carries old version of Wayland.

                        Hopefully Firefox is soon ported to Gtk 3, its in progress.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
                          Why should it be? Once 3.10 moves into [extra] repo you simply update your system, that's it. You'll have the wayland package installed already anyway, because gtk3 and mesa pull it as a dependency.
                          Considering that Fedora has included patches in things as integral as GTK in past releases, there's a good possibility we'll have to patch something in order to get Mutter and the Shell running on Wayland. Arch only includes vanilla packages, which is usually a good thing, but Fedora's tight integration with GNOME and JHBuild sometimes makes it difficult for GNOME devs on Fedora to realize what's missing elsewhere.

                          Of course, these issues are usually fixed sooner or later, but there's enough work going into getting it working seamlessly on Fedora, which won't even be complete until year's end. So I'm looking forward to a little grief, with hopes that it's as much of a breeze as you've said. No doubt, the wiki will have a great deal of instruction on the issue.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                            Really looking forward to Wayland.
                            But its too bad XWayland is still not in X.org.
                            And too bad Debian (and Ubuntu) carries old version of Wayland.

                            Hopefully Firefox is soon ported to Gtk 3, its in progress.
                            You forgot to add that it's too bad that Gnome depends on systemd now and that effectively wipes out many distros, unless you want to manually install your init system and risk breakage, and all non-Linux OS's are excluded now too.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                              You forgot to add that it's too bad that Gnome depends on systemd now and that effectively wipes out many distros, unless you want to manually install your init system and risk breakage, and all non-Linux OS's are excluded now too.
                              Then it is a distribution problem, not upstream and you know it.

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