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  • KDE 4.11 Released With Its Early KWin Wayland Code

    Phoronix: KDE 4.11 Released With Its Early KWin Wayland Code

    KDE Software Compilation 4.11 has been released as its six-month update to the KDE desktop environment stack. With KDE 4.11 comes many exciting changes ahead of the KDE Frameworks 5 transition...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQzNjc

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    if you use the oibaf/graphics-drivers ppa and update to 4.11 you'll have no decorations as libwayland-egl is missing from the oibaf repo.

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    • #3
      Already in kubuntu backports ppa. Installed it today, loving it so far

      Kwin 4.11 is SO.MUCH.BETTER. Butter smooth, and finally no tearing on intel. Switching to KDE fulltime finally!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bwat47 View Post
        Already in kubuntu backports ppa. Installed it today, loving it so far

        Kwin 4.11 is SO.MUCH.BETTER. Butter smooth, and finally no tearing on intel. Switching to KDE fulltime finally!
        Interestingly if you install it on Fedora 19 via the KDE SIG repo... They don't seem to install the new QML version of the menu (And I don't just mean by default, I mean its not even an applet choice) Also I'm not sure if they install the new QML Taskbar. Did include the new battery applet however so thats good.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by phoronix View Post
          This is also the last feature release for KDE4 Workspaces as its developers begin to focus greater on KDE5.
          There will never ever be a KDE5.

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          • #6
            KDE 5 = KDE Frameworks 5 + Plasma Workspaces 2 + KDE Applications, all compiled against Qt 5.

            The transition will be MUCH smoother this time, and it's already happening.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View Post
              KDE 5 = KDE Frameworks 5 + Plasma Workspaces 2 + KDE Applications, all compiled against Qt 5.
              None of which will be released at the same time. It won't even be the case that all applications will be ported to Qt5/KF5 simultaneously.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                None of which will be released at the same time. It won't even be the case that all applications will be ported to Qt5/KF5 simultaneously.
                I'm glad they learned from the initial KDE4 disaster and are doing things more gradually this time

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bwat47 View Post
                  Already in kubuntu backports ppa. Installed it today, loving it so far

                  Kwin 4.11 is SO.MUCH.BETTER. Butter smooth, and finally no tearing on intel. Switching to KDE fulltime finally!
                  What changed with the Intel tearing, you think? Fullscreen undirecting or something else?

                  I've been using Openbox with Xorg Composite disabled (on NVIDIA) as the last release of KDE did seem to have some extra tearing, but mostly I think that's because I started using dual monitors with TwinView.

                  I'd love to be able to go back to KDE when I can, wonderful environment.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ElderSnake View Post
                    What changed with the Intel tearing, you think? Fullscreen undirecting or something else?

                    I've been using Openbox with Xorg Composite disabled (on NVIDIA) as the last release of KDE did seem to have some extra tearing, but mostly I think that's because I started using dual monitors with TwinView.

                    I'd love to be able to go back to KDE when I can, wonderful environment.
                    Details are in this bug reports comments: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307965

                    It was because kwin uses copy_sub_buffer_mesa (which is not longer supported by intel hardware for tear-free output) among other things.
                    Last edited by bwat47; 08-14-2013, 08:59 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                      None of which will be released at the same time. It won't even be the case that all applications will be ported to Qt5/KF5 simultaneously.
                      well KDE SC bundled app will be, you won't release KF5 and say kwin comes later or kate next month but certainly external apps like kdenlive or calligra or amarok, etc can take more time to be fully migrated.

                      hopefully by then you can use X11 and mix the apps or XWayland should have reached upstream so you can still use your KDE SC 4 apps through XWayland until the full migration is done

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                      • #12
                        Honsetly, migrating from Qt4 to Qt5 is like changing some include names, and checking for the few deprecated functions.

                        I just hope they were not using legacy Qt3 code xD

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                          None of which will be released at the same time. It won't even be the case that all applications will be ported to Qt5/KF5 simultaneously.
                          AFAIK when KF5 is ready, you will be able to compile an existing KDE4 app against Qt5/KF5/KDE4Support with minimal code adjustments. The only KDE app that really needed major adjustments to be ready for KF5 is KWin, and you are already seeing that work, if you have KDE 4.11 installed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                            Honsetly, migrating from Qt4 to Qt5 is like changing some include names, and checking for the few deprecated functions.

                            I just hope they were not using legacy Qt3 code xD
                            Don't worry, anything using KDE3Support will be rewritten or killed with fire by the time KF5 is out.

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                            • #15
                              There are still problems with catalyst driver [3D effects] ?

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