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    Phoronix: GNOME Display Settings Now Working On Wayland

    In addition to the Hawaii Weston Shell update and better touch input support on Weston, there's some more good news for Wayland: the GNOME Display Settings is now working on Wayland via a new Dbus interface...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQzNTc

  • #2
    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: GNOME Display Settings Now Working On Wayland

    In addition to the Hawaii Weston Shell update and better touch input support on Weston, there's some more good news for Wayland: the GNOME Display Settings is now working on Wayland via a new Dbus interface...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQzNTc
    So what?....

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Honton View Post
      Truly amazing. Gnome 3.10 beta is next week and they are pulling in so much magic these days. MIR and "Gnome is DOOMed camp" I believe this is a message for you
      And if only GNOME was usable it would actually be relevant.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by johnc View Post
        And if only GNOME was usable it would actually be relevant.
        Go cry in a corner, your mommy is calling you..

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bkor View Post
          Go cry in a corner, your mommy is calling you..
          Ooooh. Fanboy's feelings got hurt.

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          • #6
            With Red Hat these days maintaining large parts of Gnome as well as KScreen (KDE display configuration, http://ltinkl.blogspot.com/ ), I hope the designed XRandR-based protocol becomes a cross desktop standard in the Wayland world (and possibly even Ubuntu if Canonical used the same protocol).

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            • #7
              This new DBus interface for GNOME display configuration is modeled around the X.Org RandR extension but in a simplified form.

              It would be cool if once in a while, people agreed to a damn standard, and would not make endless variations around it that causes so much code duplication between different projects...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Honton View Post
                Truly amazing. Gnome 3.10 beta is next week and they are pulling in so much magic these days. MIR and "Gnome is DOOMed camp" I believe this is a message for you
                Hold your horses because there are still things missing from the wayland protocol. And Gnome (or anyone else for the matter) can't do anything about them. It's getting there though.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Honton View Post
                  Then ask people to get involved. Intel and Gnome are already there.

                  People, please, get involved and make more FreeDesktop standards, and do follow them so that everybody lives happily and can make simple software that doesn't need to pull a full desktop environment. IMO, so far, the LXDE guys (and gals?) got it right.

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                  • #10
                    Web browser

                    Now if we could only get Firefox and/or Chromium on Wayland...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                      It would be cool if once in a while, people agreed to a damn standard, and would not make endless variations around it that causes so much code duplication between different projects...
                      Obviously one needs to adapt an X11 protocol to make it work on Wayland…

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                        It would be cool if once in a while, people agreed to a damn standard, and would not make endless variations around it that causes so much code duplication between different projects...
                        And it was so easy to get Application Indicators to be universally accepted.... Oh wait.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Honton View Post
                          Ignoring these facts requires systematic denial.
                          Which is something you know really well.

                          It's good that GNOME are moving along with their Wayland support, maybe they could have a look at usability too.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Honton View Post
                            First step would be for everyone to agree about CSD. There might be a DE out there who deny the developers the ability to make feature rich apps. This is based on an assumption that the developers are too stupid to do good design.

                            Ps. Gnome does CSD and does design work on core apps and the shell. So the blame goes some where else.

                            Sorry for my ignorance but what is a CSD ?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                              Sorry for my ignorance but what is a CSD ?
                              Client Side Decoration.
                              It means that the window's decoration are applied by the client and then the client sends to the server only the final image to compose on screen.
                              The other approach is the Server Side Decoration, where the client sends only the windows and the server take care to apply the decoration and then compose the final image on screen.
                              Wayland is a minimal display server, so minimal that they have choice to put out the decoration management from the compositor by default, but you can use SSD if you need it, just is not the default scenario (think about particular scenarios like the In-Vehicle Infotainment).

                              I'm very interested to try gnome with wayland asap!

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