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    Phoronix: Hawaii Wayland/Weston Shell Gets New Release

    Hawaii Shell, a Qt 5 based desktop interface that has a Weston plug-in for Wayland support, has experienced a new release. This Hawaii Shell release for Wayland has many new desktop-related features for those wishing for something a little more than a stock Weston desktop...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQzNDg

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    the future of linux is looking qt-er every day

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    • #3
      not surprised. gtk+ is a steaming pile of crap. what do you expect. qt is corporate funded and gtk+ is basically bunch of idealistic hacker nerds with little financial support

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      • #4
        It really is impressive how complete it is when it comes to traditional stuff like lock screens and authentication, and now support for multiple displays? Very nice.

        Some of the design is nice, too, although I don't think it would simply be a matter of taste to say it has a long way to go. Everything you need is there, sure, and it may even feel familiar to some users, but I think the layout and theming could be much tighter. Seeing some of their earlier app designs, I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen a similar theme here, yet.

        Either way, here's something you can actually use on Wayland aside from the 'reference compositor', so that's newsworthy in itself. We're there, it seems- we just need an environment people are going to leave X for.

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        • #5
          Window decorators

          You see some window decorators are blue, then other apps have gray window decorators.

          This inconsistency sucks!
          It should be one theme for all applications!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by uid313 View Post
            You see some window decorators are blue, then other apps have gray window decorators.

            This inconsistency sucks!
            It should be one theme for all applications!
            The beauty of CSD... </sarcasm>

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            • #7
              Originally posted by garegin View Post
              not surprised. gtk+ is a steaming pile of crap. what do you expect. qt is corporate funded and gtk+ is basically bunch of idealistic hacker nerds with little financial support
              Did BO$$ steal your account?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Znurre View Post
                The beauty of CSD... </sarcasm>
                Weston is just a stop gap until their own compositor is ready. Hopefully that one will follow KWin’s example and not use client-side decorations. Don't know about GTK applications but Qt applications have a switch to enable or disable CSD.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cardboard View Post
                  the future of linux is looking qt-er every day
                  And it's about time. Personally I've always found the appearance of most GTK & Gnome themes much too cartoonish and juvenile (and the apps much too childlike in their simplicity). I'm hoping that the rise of Wayland/Weston will usher in a new of era of choice, other than KDE, in desktops for adults.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cardboard View Post
                    the future of linux is looking qt-er every day
                    And it's about time. Personally I've always found the appearance of most GTK/Gnome themes much too cartoonish and juvenile (and the apps too childlike in their simplicity). GNOME, XFCE, Elementary, etc. are all guilty on that count. Is it any wonder that Linux on the dektop has had difficulty gaining traction in the enterprise when the desktop looks as works like it was designed for a 10 year old?

                    I'm hoping that the rise of Weston/Wayland will usher in a new era of choice, other than KDE, in desktops for adults.

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                    • #11
                      I'm not impressed with this shell. Its no way near user-ready. Its just a pet project because someone was bored waiting for gnome and kde to get thier DE's ready for wayland. Once gnome and kde get their DE's to wayland, I bet $5 that this project will be discontinued.

                      NOTE: I'm bored to tears waiting for wayland to be finished as well.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kurosan View Post
                        And it's about time. Personally I've always found the appearance of most GTK/Gnome themes much too cartoonish and juvenile (and the apps too childlike in their simplicity). GNOME, XFCE, Elementary, etc. are all guilty on that count.
                        Hopefully no one falls for your lame troll. As if any toolkit's technological merits were actually based on which themes external projects use…

                        Yes, technologically Qt is better than GTK (at least currently) but choice of themes has nothing to do with that.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                          Yes, technologically Qt is better than GTK (at least currently) but choice of themes has nothing to do with that.
                          Developers across desktop environments work together using freedesktop.org. Stupid trolls on Phoronix are pretty ignorant of what is going on. Suggesting hate between toolkits where there is none makes the troll even more foolish.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kurosan View Post
                            And it's about time. Personally I've always found the appearance of most GTK/Gnome themes much too cartoonish and juvenile (and the apps too childlike in their simplicity). GNOME, XFCE, Elementary, etc. are all guilty on that count. Is it any wonder that Linux on the dektop has had difficulty gaining traction in the enterprise when the desktop looks as works like it was designed for a 10 year old?

                            I'm hoping that the rise of Weston/Wayland will usher in a new era of choice, other than KDE, in desktops for adults.
                            BS, Gtk3 has plenty of good looking themes. Gtk2 not so much but that's to be expected.

                            Just look at the Mint themes, they're very clean and professional.

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                            • #15
                              well one interesting thing wayland can allow and CSD is/could be part of the idea is that every toolkit can share a single UX style later of course if everyone agrees, at least for the basic common widgets and share a common theming engine and even later you could set from an app which style you want.

                              nobody is working on this yet but the idea is possible at least in Qt where you can just inherit QWidget base class and implement your own render paths, ofc the main point would be do this through an external library [libwidgets.so] that render the this widgets reading CSS/Qml/others?? theme from the parser in libtheme.so that read the file/designer with realtime/both? using EGL/GLES or pixmap/cairo directly to the wayland surface required by the client app in a previous step. If this is doable too in GTK+ then qt/gtk can share a common UX theme and if you can set some sort of usability standard in freedesktop that both respect, it could become seamless which toolkit the app end up using or which DE you are using it from.

                              In theory QML will still work and allow you to exploit scenegraph since the theming is just an texture and QWidget still handle the backbone, in worst case you can set a boolean in qwidgets that allow you to ignore theme per widget in case you wanna customize some or all of your widgets.

                              ofc don't expect this soon since i think will require a more deep look at all codebases to check if is possible to implement it in both and all parties will have to reach an agreement, etc

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