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  • #16
    Originally posted by dee. View Post
    BS, Gtk3 has plenty of good looking themes. Gtk2 not so much but that's to be expected.

    Just look at the Mint themes, they're very clean and professional.
    Congratulations. You have the honor of being the first idiot in this thread to fall for the classic “ugly themes” troll. ;-)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
      Congratulations. You have the honor of being the first idiot in this thread to fall for the classic “ugly themes” troll. ;-)
      Congratulations, you have the social skills of a fungus... ;-)

      It's always tempting to dismiss contrary opinions as "trolling" but by doing so excessively, you risk insulating yourself from all contrary opinions, thus creating around you an echo chamber that denies you the possibility of being exposed to new ideas. In the worst case this leads to intellectual stagnation, in the best case just boredom on account of having no one to argue with.

      Personally, I feel it best to reserve the label of "troll" to those who are very obviously and blatantly posting ridiculous things with the purpose of getting an emotional response from people, who also have a history of ignoring facts and counterarguments, and refusing to engage in any real discourse - people like BO$$, for example. When it comes to ambiguous cases, or people that I haven't seen posting enough to really know for sure, I'd much rather give people the benefit of doubt and assume they are acting bona fide and being sincere. Either I'm right and it has the potential to lead to interesting discussion or debate, or I'm wrong and - what, some mental midget somewhere gets to giggle at their monitor going "hee hee, I got that guy to believe I actually think X because I said X, aren't I clever"... oh noes, what a tragedy. So what do I really have to lose?

      You could also think of it this way - trolling is kind of like terrorism. When you stop engaging people due to the fear of being trolled, the trolls have already won...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dh04000 View Post
        I'm not impressed with this shell. Its no way near user-ready. Its just a pet project because someone was bored waiting for gnome and kde to get thier DE's ready for wayland. Once gnome and kde get their DE's to wayland, I bet $5 that this project will be discontinued.

        NOTE: I'm bored to tears waiting for wayland to be finished as well.
        Main difference is that it is mostly written in QML. Last time I checked it, touchscreen didn't work, but when it will, it's gonna be a joy to use on a transformer book.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BO$$
          The truth must hurt. You would do anything to ignore it, even call other people Bo$$ just so you don't have to read and comprehend what they say. Nice way to refuse to deal with reality what can I say!
          Bo$$, real talk.

          You've consistently shown to ignore all evidence presented to you that doesn't support your purported views, to be intellectually dishonest in any conversation, and to write posts with the express intent of antagonizing other posters. I've concluded that as you've found yourself unable to convince anyone of the validity of your ridiculous claims, you've degenerated into plain old reactionary trolling (which everyone pretty much ignores now, apart from some newer forum goers).

          The post I responded to was reminiscent of your style of "argumentation" (scare quotes, because your arguments are only halfway coherent at best, even when you bother making them) in this regard, which lead to my humorous remark of the possibility of the poster in question being you in disguise. Although do note, for what it's worth, that no one can quite come close to the level of ridiculousness inherent in your posts. Please don't take it personally... it's just that you are very, very stupid and annoying, and pretty much everyone here is tired of reading your repetitive drivel.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BO$$
            Yes, drivel, except I said that Ubuntu is the most popular distro and it has proven to be. Now of course we are going to ignore that. Hell even on phoronix it seems that Ubuntu is pretty popular (if you ignore that obvious troll voting for Arch Linux). All those go to show that since Ubuntu is used on a lot of PC using Linux, Mir will also be pretty popular. But of course you hate Mir and would never want to hear those arguments. Mir will simply dominate because it comes in Ubuntu. It will also get more testing on the desktop, again because Ubuntu is popular. All these lead to the facts that Mir is already moving faster than Wayland, will be used in the next version of Ubuntu and it will be pretty damn good. Everybody will use it, doesn't matter if you like it or not. Wayland is just too slow and Canonical came in and stole the show. Of course in both cases, either Wayland or Mir, I have my doubts that the linux desktop will become so great to dethrone Windows, which is why I keep telling people how far behind they are in some major areas, compared to Microsoft. Then again, the truth hurts, so it's easier to label me as a troll. Canonical is the only company that can move something in the Linux world when it comes to Linux desktop. Which is kind of sad, especially when everybody and their brother says they are committed to dethroning Windows.

            Plus, for somebody new to Linux, visiting this forum will lead to the impression that Canonical is a satanic beast that must be destroyed, so somebody has to present some facts that will lead to a more balanced view. The haters are too vocal, even if they are in minority. A little, ignore minority.
            Warning - massive straw man alert! Watch out for that thing and be careful, everybody.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BO$$
              except I said that Ubuntu is the most popular distro and it has proven to be.
              For beginners, maybe. Windows is the most popular os, it doesn't make it the best (and I don't really think that there is something as a "best OS" because nowadays people have sooo many different definitions of an OS. For instance, Linux is an os, right ? Then what is Sailfish OS ? Android ? Tizen ?).



              By the way, to return on track, do you think it is envisageable to try to build and run Hawaii on debian ? I spent some hours making a -O3 -march=native build of Qt5.1.1, I'd like to see it in action ^^

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              • #22
                Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                By the way, to return on track, do you think it is envisageable to try to build and run Hawaii on debian ? I spent some hours making a -O3 -march=native build of Qt5.1.1, I'd like to see it in action ^^
                Maybe? Did you run into any problems?

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