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  • Originally posted by daniels View Post
    , and 0.10.x continues to exist and see maintenance releases.
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    http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...ch/000273.html

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    • This means wine gstreamer will be brocken for a long time. Qt4 QGstramer too which means telepathy-call-ui will be useless until a K Frameworks 5 versiom is out.

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      • heh, my bad. well, it does continue to exist at least, and works no less well than it ever did - including being parallel-installable with 1.0 ...

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        • Originally posted by Thaodan View Post
          This means wine gstreamer will be brocken for a long time. Qt4 QGstramer too which means telepathy-call-ui will be useless until a K Frameworks 5 versiom is out.
          really? it's not like 0.10.x suddenly gained a load of bugs or is suddenly unusable. it's parallel-installable with 1.0.x too, so there's no pressure for a sudden and immediate switch. same way the 0.8.x → 0.10.x transition was handled.

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          • Originally posted by Phoronix Email;
            Dear Ericg,

            daniels has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled
            I always chuckle just a little whenever I see this....

            Originally posted by daniels View Post
            are you drunk?
            And he doesn't disappoint lol :P


            On topic though... Gstreamer did the ABI/API break right, they made sure you could have both (pre-break and post-break) versions installed simultaneously so that no matter what software you had targetting no matter what version of Gstreamer your stuff still worked exactly as it was intended. There's no conspiracy theory. There's no magic genie suddenly making gstreamer0.10 have tons of bugs that it didn't have before (though using an unmaintained piece of software isnt a great idea, granted). Install both, call it a happy day, and if you have a piece of software that REQUIRES 0.10 then got on the developers ass to port it to 1.x, its that simple.

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            • Originally posted by daniels View Post
              really? it's not like 0.10.x suddenly gained a load of bugs or is suddenly unusable.
              No, not suddenly but it's still unusable. Any media play framework is that randomly stops playback is useless: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=281897
              Bugs like these are nowadays only getting fixed in GStreamer 1.x (hopefully they get fixed at all).
              Not only does Phonon ensure KDE's ABI stability promise, it also means that people like me can simply avoid such bugs by just using the VLC back-end.

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              • Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                No, not suddenly but it's still unusable. Any media play framework is that randomly stops playback is useless: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=281897
                Bugs like these are nowadays only getting fixed in GStreamer 1.x (hopefully they get fixed at all).
                do you even read your own links? not only is it fixed in 1.0, but the fix was backported to the 0.10 branch.

                https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680252#c16

                Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                Not only does Phonon ensure KDE's ABI stability promise, it also means that people like me can simply avoid such bugs by just using the VLC back-end.
                pretty impressed that your response to 'there's one bug which was fixed eight months ago' is to switch frameworks. i've got a repeatable oops/panic in the kernel: do you recommend i switch to freebsd, or try to get it fixed?

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                • Originally posted by daniels View Post
                  do you even read your own links? not only is it fixed in 1.0, but the fix was backported to the 0.10 branch.

                  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680252#c16

                  pretty impressed that your response to 'there's one bug which was fixed eight months ago' is to switch frameworks.
                  I don't care how long ago the bug was fixed. I care about how long the bug was not fixed. I experienced random stops using GStreamer for years. Before that I experience random segfaults.

                  VLC simply works. It works since ages.
                  VLC also is my movie player of choice longer than GStreamer even exists. So why not also use it as Phonon back-end to listen to music in Juk?

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                  • Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                    I don't care how long ago the bug was fixed. I care about how long the bug was not fixed.
                    it was fixed pretty damn rapidly after being reported upstream. hard to fix bugs you don't know about.

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                    • Gnome is heavily involved in the development of Wayland and Weston.

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