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    Phoronix: Rasterman: Enlightenment To Have Full Wayland Support

    Carsten Haitzler, a.k.a. "Rasterman" and known for his work on the Enlightenment window manager / desktop, has provided some new comments on Enlightenment's planned support for Wayland...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQxNzc

  • #2
    Thank you Michael it's good to see them working on Full Support

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    • #3
      He doesn't mention which version of E will have full WL support.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
        He doesn't mention which version of E will have full WL support.

        he pointed out the Wiki and it says

        [Enlightenment 0.18]

        Complete support for rendering Wayland Client applications inside the existing X11 Compositor
        Provides a Wayland Shell for use by Wayland Client applications
        Current work is progressing toward a Wayland-Only version

        https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/wayland/

        so maybe E19?

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        • #5
          Not updated in 2 months ??

          "Rasterman also recommends Phoronix readers check out their Wayland Wiki page about the topic, but as of publishing it hasn't been updated in about two months."

          And yet, on the wiki page itself, it says:

          "Last updated 47 days ago by devilhorns."

          47 days is little over a month .... but I guess "About two months" is close enough, tho to me 2 months sounds overly long

          At any rate, yes E18 already supports running Wayland Client applications inside the existing X11 compositor. This means you can run things like Weston Terminal without the need for running Weston itself. E18's default compositor will handle it.

          With regard to a Wayland Only version, it is progressing yes. There are still some things that need to be ported over (such as E internal dialogs), and there are some things that will either need changes in the core wayland protocol, or perhaps an extension to the protocol in order to facilitate a more complete desktop experience.

          There will be an announcement made when I have the wayland-only version complete enough for people to start testing, don't worry

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          • #6
            Originally posted by devilhorns View Post
            "Rasterman also recommends Phoronix readers check out their Wayland Wiki page about the topic, but as of publishing it hasn't been updated in about two months."

            And yet, on the wiki page itself, it says:

            "Last updated 47 days ago by devilhorns."

            47 days is little over a month .... but I guess "About two months" is close enough, tho to me 2 months sounds overly long

            At any rate, yes E18 already supports running Wayland Client applications inside the existing X11 compositor. This means you can run things like Weston Terminal without the need for running Weston itself. E18's default compositor will handle it.

            With regard to a Wayland Only version, it is progressing yes. There are still some things that need to be ported over (such as E internal dialogs), and there are some things that will either need changes in the core wayland protocol, or perhaps an extension to the protocol in order to facilitate a more complete desktop experience.

            There will be an announcement made when I have the wayland-only version complete enough for people to start testing, don't worry
            ill be more then happy to test it for you E18 look's really good so far

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
              ill be more then happy to test it for you E18 look's really good so far
              LOL, no worries. As stated, I'll make an announcement when I feel it is in that stage

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              • #8
                Full Wayland support?

                I approve of this.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by devilhorns View Post
                  LOL, no worries. As stated, I'll make an announcement when I feel it is in that stage
                  So this means that you already have something semi-functional


                  BTW is this xdg-shell being developed a prerequisite to get Full WL working??

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                    So this means that you already have something semi-functional
                    It does ?

                    Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                    BTW is this xdg-shell being developed a prerequisite to get Full WL working??
                    Confused ? Excellent, then my work here is complete

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by devilhorns View Post
                      With regard to a Wayland Only version, it is progressing yes. There are still some things that need to be ported over (such as E internal dialogs), and there are some things that will either need changes in the core wayland protocol, or perhaps an extension to the protocol in order to facilitate a more complete desktop experience.
                      Raster, I'm assuming you've brought up these concerns with krh and the likes? Changes needed to core is kind of a red flag...

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                      • #12
                        Reason for each desktop to build their own compositors?

                        This has probably answered before but what's the reason for each desktop to build their own Wayland compositors instead of having them all use and work on the Weston compositor? It seems like there's an awful lot of duplicate work being done across the various projects that could instead be redirected into making Weston awesome?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by damg View Post
                          This has probably answered before but what's the reason for each desktop to build their own Wayland compositors instead of having them all use and work on the Weston compositor? It seems like there's an awful lot of duplicate work being done across the various projects that could instead be redirected into making Weston awesome?
                          thats not what Weston is for "Part of the Wayland project is also the Weston reference implementation of a Wayland compositor."
                          also tech Demo

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by devilhorns View Post
                            47 days is little over a month .... but I guess "About two months" is close enough, tho to me 2 months sounds overly long
                            47 days is 30+17=1.54 months, which properly rounded is 2 months

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by damg View Post
                              This has probably answered before but what's the reason for each desktop to build their own Wayland compositors instead of having them all use and work on the Weston compositor? It seems like there's an awful lot of duplicate work being done across the various projects that could instead be redirected into making Weston awesome?
                              Weston isn't meant to be used in production for one... its the developers playground and testbed for protocol support. Its not meant to be the fastest (read: optimizatized) its not meant to be a fully featured desktop. Its a place for the wayland devs to make sure the protocol works as expected.

                              There was an idea discussed that basically came down to there will be one shared system compositor, and then Gnome/Kwin/Enlightenment/etc will implement their own session compositor (mutter/kwin/E...something/etc). Not sure what ever came from that discussion...

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