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  • #31
    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
    Learn to read. I wrote "market reality", not some ambition stated on a website.
    Oh great, their ambitions are disconnected from reality. Certainly makes people confident when looking at that project

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    • #32
      Originally posted by chithanh View Post
      Oh great, their ambitions are disconnected from reality. Certainly makes people confident when looking at that project
      It's the platfrom used by Automotive Grade Linux and it's also GENEVI compliant. I would say it's quite notable but probably something Samsung isn't too interested in.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Teho View Post
        It's the platfrom used by Automotive Grade Linux and it's also GENEVI compliant. I would say it's quite notable but probably something Samsung isn't too interested in.
        LG is interested in that market: http://www.genivi.org/compliant-products
        Samsung may create a commercial solution based on Tizen as well, esp. considering that Samsung and Renault operate a joint venture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Samsung_Motors

        Even though it's not a requirement to base a commercial GENIVI-compliant offering on MeeGo/Tizen, it's the easiest path because all code is available under https://review.tizen.org/git/
        And that's Intel's interest: Be the preferred IVI upstream to ensure commercial offerings work well with Intel chipsets.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
          Even though it's not a requirement to base a commercial GENIVI-compliant offering on MeeGo/Tizen
          No doubt you already know this & it's just a honest mistake, but just in case... MeeGo != Tizen.
          Tizen started-off very similar from a admin/governance standpoint only (but even that's changed quite a bit), & similar in terms of many of the same orgs involved in MeeGo being involved in Tizen.
          From a technical/code standpoint though, Tizen is not based on or like MeeGo at all (except perhaps for some upstream stuff), the successor to MeeGo is MeR/Nemo or MeR/Sailfish.
          Hopefully one day... the mainstream media will stop directly associating the two...
          Last edited by jalyst; 07-14-2013, 02:39 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jalyst View Post
            No doubt you already know this & it's just a honest mistake, but just in case... MeeGo != Tizen.
            Tizen started-off very similar from a admin/governance standpoint only (but even that's changed quite a bit), & similar in terms of many of the same orgs involved in MeeGo being involved in Tizen.
            From a technical/code standpoint though, Tizen is not based on or like MeeGo at all
            How often do I have to repeat to people like you that Tizen IVI is not the same as Tizen Mobile.
            Tizen Mobile is not based on MeeGo, true. It's based on Samsung Linux Platform.

            Tizen IVI, however, is based on MeeGo IVI!!!!!!! <-- Get that in your head!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
              How often do I have to repeat to people like you that Tizen IVI is not the same as Tizen Mobile.
              Tizen Mobile is not based on MeeGo, true. It's based on Samsung Linux Platform.

              Tizen IVI, however, is based on MeeGo IVI!!!!!!! <-- Get that in your head!
              I detect a tone of rudeness there, was I at any point rude in my prior post? I think it's pretty clear I wasn't.
              It's 5am here, sleep deprivation is not a good thing when it comes to reading comprehension.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by jalyst View Post
                I detect a tone of rudeness there, was I at any point rude in my prior post? I think it's pretty clear I wasn't.
                It's 5am here, sleep deprivation is not a good thing when it comes to reading comprehension.
                Then detect my posts explaining Tizen IVI when you are awake. It's hardly the first time, I explained itů

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                  Then detect my posts explaining Tizen IVI when you are awake. It's hardly the first time, I explained itů
                  Doesn't entitle you to be rude. Maybe the dude missed the post or something. It happens. To get upset is a bit childish.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                    Tizen works with Qt just fine. Utilizing Qt applications can be developed and deployed without much hassle on BlackBerry 10, Ubuntu Touch, Jolla/Sailfish, Plasma Active, and Tizen Mobile/IVI.
                    It does, but there's no official support on Tizen Mobile so the developer has to bundle the Qt libraries with the application they want to release (which means a larger binary) or the user will have to install the Qt libs manually.

                    And after looking at press releases of Tizen from Samsung and Intel, the overall impression is that the priority is Tizen Mobile, IVI is sparsely mentioned let alone portrayed as the primary driver for the Tizen project.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                      Actually QML and HTML5 are the official development platforms for Ubuntu Mobile, as with Jolla.
                      FirefoxOS is HTML5 only, however since the Mozilla Marketplace is cross platform it will probably have more success than other HTML5 platforms such as Tizen.
                      Tizen also suffers from an unclear development path and lack of official support for any native applications as EFL is no longer a supported framework.

                      https://developer.tizen.org/document...cover_page.htm

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                      • #41
                        There were articles stating that native development had been deprecated for now, I guess they've brought it back.
                        Is the official Tizen SDK the only way to write these applications? I would be wary using it as its license isn't exactly FOSS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flora_License).

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                          There were articles stating that native development had been deprecated for now, I guess they've brought it back.
                          Is the official Tizen SDK the only way to write these applications? I would be wary using it as its license isn't exactly FOSS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flora_License).
                          The articles were probably wrong as native development didn't go anywhere.
                          The license only matters if you want to fork the project, otherwise it is a non-issue. You could also use the unofficial Qt SDK to create tizen apps with native code.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by jayrulez View Post
                            The articles were probably wrong as native development didn't go anywhere.
                            The license only matters if you want to fork the project, otherwise it is a non-issue. You could also use the unofficial Qt SDK to create tizen apps with native code.
                            I know what it was, the Tizen SDK 1.0 only had HTML5 support. They seem to have brought it back in later releases.

                            Qt isn't officially supported on Tizen. A service similar to Ministro II on Android would be needed before any Qt applications could be run.

                            Also the clause You may not load or install any of the Tizen SDK onto mobile phones or any other devices, except a personal computer. in the Flora license is quite strange to have in a project that is supposedly open source and developed in conjunction with the Linux Foundation.

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                            • #44
                              Looks Like we may see KDE running on Wayland soon

                              "My notbeook has been using a KDE+Wayland session for a complete day. Let's see how long it will last :-)"

                              https://plus.google.com/115606635748...ts/ZpRpYG2uv3L

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                                I know what it was, the Tizen SDK 1.0 only had HTML5 support. They seem to have brought it back in later releases.

                                Qt isn't officially supported on Tizen. A service similar to Ministro II on Android would be needed before any Qt applications could be run.

                                Also the clause You may not load or install any of the Tizen SDK onto mobile phones or any other devices, except a personal computer. in the Flora license is quite strange to have in a project that is supposedly open source and developed in conjunction with the Linux Foundation.
                                You could always bundle Qt with the application. Qt is not the monolithic framework it was. It may be a bit larger than using the tizen apis but it's no bigger than Xamarin.Android and Unity which are very popular.

                                I don't think many if anyone will be developing mobile apps with their phones and tablets so that clause shouldn't be a problem for developers.

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