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  • #16
    Originally posted by UraniumDeer View Post
    Now we just need Qt5.2, Mesa 9.2 (forgot why), and well, I don't know if KWin will keep using the Qpainter compositor, that Martin made, but if so, and if KDE 4.12 is based on Qt5.2, then at least KWin in KDE 4.12 is pretty far by Jan/Feb next year, if I've understood everything correctly
    No, you didn't.

    1.) There is no KDE 4.
    2.) No 4.x release of Software Compilation will be based on Qt 5.
    3.) SC 4.11 is the last release featuring Plasma Workspaces components, including KWin.
    4.) The Workspaces parts of SC 4.11 will be supported for 2 years, maybe longer.
    5.) Plasma Workspaces 2 will feature KWin 5.0.
    6.) KWin 5.0 will be the first KWin release fully supporting Wayland.
    7.) PW2 will be released sometime in 2014 but probably not as early as January or February.
    8.) Read Planet KDE to get correct news and you won't misunderstand it all any longer.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jayrulez View Post
      Its Qt/QML for Ubuntu.
      The Ubuntu phone website describes HTML5 web apps as "first class citizens". Only further below QML is mentioned.
      http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/app-ecosystem

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
        6.) KWin 5.0 will be the first KWin release fully supporting Wayland.
        That is true, but doesn't preclude kwin shipped with KDE SC 4.11 from having initial support already.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by chithanh View Post
          The Ubuntu phone website describes HTML5 web apps as "first class citizens". Only further below QML is mentioned.
          http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/app-ecosystem
          That Vaporware is Nice
          but on the other hand we do have Wayland Working and Shipping soon

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          • #20
            Originally posted by chithanh View Post
            The primary supported method to write apps for Ubuntu, Tizen and FirefoxOS is HTML5. I think Sailfish will be able to run apps for a wide range of platforms (Qt/native, MeeGo, Android and HTML5).
            Actually QML and HTML5 are the official development platforms for Ubuntu Mobile, as with Jolla.
            FirefoxOS is HTML5 only, however since the Mozilla Marketplace is cross platform it will probably have more success than other HTML5 platforms such as Tizen.
            Tizen also suffers from an unclear development path and lack of official support for any native applications as EFL is no longer a supported framework.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
              I remember some of use guys having a discussion here on phoronix forums about system compositors and if we need them and if weston is such a compositor.

              https://plus.google.com/100409717163...ts/HXibFPyKoEB

              This might clear things up.
              Is logind going to be an integral part?
              If so, won't this detrimentally effect the porting effort of Wayland to FreeBSD and essentially tie it to Linux?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                Tizen also suffers from an unclear development path
                That puts it very nicely. There are not few who believe that Tizen is more or less dead. This is why it is good that Sailfish goes forward to demonstrate what Wayland is capable of in mobile.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
                  we do have Wayland Working and Shipping soon
                  Wayland is already working and shipping in various distributions. The major desktops just don't use it, yet.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by chithanh View Post
                    That puts it very nicely. There are not few who believe that Tizen is more or less dead. This is why it is good that Sailfish goes forward to demonstrate what Wayland is capable of in mobile.
                    Especially when there's been more recent doubt in the future of Tizen, mentioned in this article.
                    http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyols...ve-hit-a-snag/

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                      Especially when there's been more recent doubt in the future of Tizen, mentioned in this article.
                      http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyols...ve-hit-a-snag/
                      You people need to finally learn that there are two very different projects being developed under the Tizen brand: IVI and Mobile.
                      Tizen IVI is very much alive and very successful in its industry.

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                      • #26
                        Obviously we are talking about Sailfish/Tizen/Wayland on mobile phones here. And it looks like Sailfish might be the first out of the door with a phone that has a Wayland based UI, while Tizen phones keep being postponed.

                        [rant]In fact, the situation is so pathetic that Tizen now has an app challenge with 1st November 2013 submission deadline, but it is highly questionable whether actual Tizen phones will be on the market before then. I mean, how can you properly develop an app without a phone to run it on?[/rant]

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                        • #27
                          wayland

                          Im waiting for it to move to linux as primary os
                          For the moment X gives me probs
                          For the gaming is 7 windos

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by chithanh View Post
                            Obviously we are talking about Sailfish/Tizen/Wayland on mobile phones here.
                            The topic is Wayland and Wayland is already present in consumer devices via IVI.
                            Any claim that Tizen had an "unclear development path" is wrong. The path is clear: IVI is where Tizen's party is. In market reality Tizen Mobile is just a side project.

                            Originally posted by chithanh View Post
                            [rant]In fact, the situation is so pathetic that Tizen now has an app challenge with 1st November 2013 submission deadline, but it is highly questionable whether actual Tizen phones will be on the market before then. I mean, how can you properly develop an app without a phone to run it on?[/rant]
                            Tizen works with Qt just fine. Utilizing Qt applications can be developed and deployed without much hassle on BlackBerry 10, Ubuntu Touch, Jolla/Sailfish, Plasma Active, and Tizen Mobile/IVI.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                              IVI is where Tizen's party is. In market reality Tizen Mobile is just a side project.
                              Well if I visit the about page on tizen.org this certainly reads differently (emphasis mine):
                              Originally posted by https://www.tizen.org/about
                              Tizen is an open source, standards-based software platform supported by leading mobile operators, device manufacturers, and silicon suppliers for multiple device categories such as smartphones, tablets, netbooks, in-vehicle infotainment devices, and smart TVs.
                              IVI is mentioned only in fourth place, behind netbooks even.

                              Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                              Tizen works with Qt just fine. Utilizing Qt applications can be developed and deployed without much hassle on BlackBerry 10, Ubuntu Touch, Jolla/Sailfish, Plasma Active, and Tizen Mobile/IVI.
                              Of course I can also develop on a different platform or even in an emulator. But that only gives me a remote idea how the application will behave on a Tizen phone.

                              I guess that I have already derailed this thread from the topic of Wayland and Weston too much, so I will stop posting about Tizen here.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by chithanh View Post
                                Well if I visit the about page on tizen.org this certainly reads differently (emphasis mine):
                                IVI is mentioned only in fourth place, behind netbooks even.
                                Learn to read. I wrote "market reality", not some ambition stated on a website.

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