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  • #46
    Originally posted by dee. View Post
    Canonical has done nothing to get rid of closed drivers.
    Should every linux company work at the kernel? There are plenty of things left to do in userspace.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by dibal View Post
      Should every linux company work at the kernel? There are plenty of things left to do in userspace.
      Every company that sells services for a whole distribution should definitively also work on the kernel. If Canonical only did Unity and sold that for other distributions, you'd be right, but Canonical distributes Ubuntu as a whole.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
        Every company that sells services for a whole distribution should definitively also work on the kernel. If Canonical only did Unity and sold that for other distributions, you'd be right, but Canonical distributes Ubuntu as a whole.
        Could you please point to the section in the licence that says that? Or anywhere else that this has been established?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by jayrulez View Post
          Could you please point to the section in the licence that says that? Or anywhere else that this has been established?
          Learn to read to what I even replied.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
            As far as I can tell Apple also upstreamed bugfixes from BSD and GNU components of OSX. Apple does not insist on hosting forks on their own SCM service (Launchpad in Canonical's case).
            Are you trying to tell us one of the most evil companies is better than Canonical? Stop kidding.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
              Are you trying to tell us one of the most evil companies is better than Canonical? Stop kidding.
              Companies cannot be evil. They can be profitable or not.

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              • #52
                But what about Google? Everybody loves Google!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Serge View Post
                  But what about Google? Everybody loves Google!
                  Or EA. Everybody hates EA.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                    Companies cannot be evil. They can be profitable or not.
                    Bullshit. Ethics don't stop applying to you just because you decide to act as a "corporation". If you do unethical things, you're evil. If your company does unethical things, your company is evil. It's not rocket science.

                    Profitability has nothing to do with it. You can make profit without doing evil things.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by dee. View Post
                      Bullshit. Ethics don't stop applying to you just because you decide to act as a "corporation". If you do unethical things, you're evil. If your company does unethical things, your company is evil. It's not rocket science.

                      Profitability has nothing to do with it. You can make profit without doing evil things.
                      +1 Doing evil != profitable.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                        Every company that sells services for a whole distribution should definitively also work on the kernel. If Canonical only did Unity and sold that for other distributions, you'd be right, but Canonical distributes Ubuntu as a whole.
                        For me, it is completely ok to work on other aspects from the open source software stack. The linux kernel is just a (maybe replaceable) part of the open source software stack.

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                        • #57
                          The question is not whether outsiders believe ethics should apply to corporations or not, the question is whether the corporations themselves are aware of the ethical implications of their decisions, which I think they are not. Corporations don't actually make decisions - which means they don't have free will, and that has a whole other host of ethical implications, but that would be off-topic to this conversation - but as I was saying, corporations don't make decisions, their employees make the decisions. We can judge the ethics of these employees, because they are people, but we can't judge the ethics of corporations. Corporations simply have no conscience.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                            Companies cannot be evil. They can be profitable or not.
                            Do you know any non evil action from Monsanto ? I cannot imagine a computer company that opens a biological war against life on planet earth.
                            Last edited by dibal; 04-13-2013, 02:42 AM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by dibal View Post
                              Do you know any non evil action from Monsanto ?
                              Here ya go: http://www.monsantofund.org/

                              God I love the internet.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Serge View Post
                                Here ya go: http://www.monsantofund.org/

                                God I love the internet.
                                Does Monsantofund founds projects in countrys that not accept patents on life ? Or is is a door opener to accept the Monsanto patent policy ?

                                God I love people who believes in greenwashing.

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