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    Phoronix: XRandR Equivalent Published For Wayland, Weston

    Aside from window minimizing and maximizing support, another feature missing from Wayland/Weston has been an easy way to change resolutions and other display functionality that up until recently was handled via XRandR, the X Resize and Rotate extension. Now Weston has received a similar port...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMyMzI

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    I for one fully agree that a client should only be able to _ask_ for a resolution, not _set_ it. I had enough of it with crashing games and/or bad drivers on Linux that left me with a crappy desktop at super low/broken res.
    Last edited by mark45; 03-10-2013, 11:44 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mark45 View Post
      I for one fully agree that a client should only be able to _ask_ for a resolution, not _set_ it. I had enough of it with crashing games and/or bad drivers on Linux that left me with a crappy desktop at super low/broken res.
      Yea, that's always a pain.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mark45 View Post
        I for one fully agree that a client should only be able to _ask_ for a resolution, not _set_ it. I had enough of it with crashing games and/or bad drivers on Linux that left me with a crappy desktop at super low/broken res.
        Amen to this. Pretty much every fullscreen game fucks up. Luckily Unity3D doesn't seem to do so, so all those games won't mess shit up at least.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mark45 View Post
          I for one fully agree that a client should only be able to _ask_ for a resolution, not _set_ it. I had enough of it with crashing games and/or bad drivers on Linux that left me with a crappy desktop at super low/broken res.
          +1 to this

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          • #6
            Does anyone else wonder

            If the mir announcement was only a bluff, an elaborate ruse, a backhanded way to light a fire under the wayland/weston developers, to supercharge the pace of development?

            Originally posted by phoronix View Post
            Phoronix: XRandR Equivalent Published For Wayland, Weston

            Aside from window minimizing and maximizing support, another feature missing from Wayland/Weston has been an easy way to change resolutions and other display functionality that up until recently was handled via XRandR, the X Resize and Rotate extension. Now Weston has received a similar port...

            http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMyMzI

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            • #7
              Originally posted by david_lynch View Post
              If the mir announcement was only a bluff, an elaborate ruse, a backhanded way to light a fire under the wayland/weston developers, to supercharge the pace of development?
              What the hell are you talking about, all the currently available code for Mir is public.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by david_lynch View Post
                If the mir announcement was only a bluff, an elaborate ruse, a backhanded way to light a fire under the wayland/weston developers, to supercharge the pace of development?
                Why would they do the coding then? Mir's repo has code going back months

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Micket View Post
                  Luckily Unity3D doesn't seem to do so, so all those games won't mess shit up at least.
                  From what I can tell, that's because they never scale down the resolution, they just scale up the viewport to match the native one instead.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah, frak you Mir!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
                      Yeah, frak you Mir!

                      Something like XRandR is not something that is desirable for wayland/weston so I'm not sure why you seem so happy about this.

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                      • #12
                        I think the wayland's devs have clear in mind that problem, so lets they work on the patch and through next versions to arrive to the right solution, as usual.
                        For example, the problem is already under discussion:
                        For the issue with a client dying and leaving the compositor in a weird
                        resolution. Perhaps the API could change so that clients can specify
                        that the resolution change is contextual, and the previous resolution
                        would be set back when the client dies (it would look like the exclusive
                        part of the screenshooter).

                        Anyway it is really useful for testing mode_switch() callbacks.
                        Actually I'm waiting for the PQ's work on subsurface and its refinement, because subsurface implementation will be useful for a lot of features and will help the completion of QtWayland in time for the release of Qt 5.1 I hope.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mark45 View Post
                          I for one fully agree that a client should only be able to _ask_ for a resolution, not _set_ it. I had enough of it with crashing games and/or bad drivers on Linux that left me with a crappy desktop at super low/broken res.
                          People shouldn't confuse the requirements for something like a control panel displays applet or command line mode switcher, for the case that a user wants to switch resolution, from the case where an app wants to switch.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by varikonniemi View Post
                            People shouldn't confuse the requirements for something like a control panel displays applet or command line mode switcher, for the case that a user wants to switch resolution, from the case where an app wants to switch.
                            Just require root permissions. The Control Panel could have both a "basic" (wallpaper, timezone, etc) and "secure" (display, hostname, etc) sections. The Secure section requires the root password.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by F i L View Post
                              Just require root permissions. The Control Panel could have both a "basic" (wallpaper, timezone, etc) and "secure" (display, hostname, etc) sections. The Secure section requires the root password.
                              That would be bad way to handle this. Users without root password wouldn't be able to change their desktops display settings, usability would be annoying and using root privileges is bad for security.

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