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    Phoronix: Compiz Will Not Be Ported To Wayland

    The Compiz window manager is not going to be ported to Wayland. The lead Compiz developer also sees no reason to continue the compositing window manager's development beyond maintenance purposes...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI2ODU

  • #2
    So if Compiz is out on account of fragmentation, that just leaves KWin, Mutter, Metacity, Xfwm, Openbox, Enlightenment, and a variety of much smaller projects. And those are just the tiling WMs!

    I definite get the perspective of the fragmentation being bad. Having the QT / GTK split between KWin and Mutter seems inevitable, but I hope that the non-platform centric WMs can converge around Openbox, it seems to have the most traction.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by zanny View Post
      So if Compiz is out on account of fragmentation, that just leaves KWin, Mutter, Metacity, Xfwm, Openbox, Enlightenment, and a variety of much smaller projects.
      Metacity is no longer actively developed, since Mutter is now the successor version of Metacity (Mutter = Metacity + Clutter).

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      • #4
        Unity

        Compiz is not yet another compositing manager as he claims.
        As far as I understand, Compiz is the only compositing manager that can be extended/modified with plugins.

        Also, without Compiz, how is Unity supposed to run on Wayland?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post
          Compiz is not yet another compositing manager as he claims.
          As far as I understand, Compiz is the only compositing manager that can be extended/modified with plugins.

          Also, without Compiz, how is Unity supposed to run on Wayland?
          I guess they could switch to Mutter?
          It's in a much better state than it was 2 years ago.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SolidSteel144 View Post
            I guess they could switch to Mutter?
            It's in a much better state than it was 2 years ago.
            How about some canonical-fused waylandish in-house skunkwork whizbang built from CA desires under heavy infuence of a varity of drugs? Add a shell built on Qt and a bit more spyware. Then you got yourself a nice pot luck of all the shit, FUD, closedness and greed which made Apple and Microsoft so great. That seems more fun to Mr Shuttleworth than going with anything smelling of openness which cant be corrupted or closed down.

            I really do hope Canonical does this, it makes it so much easier to avoid this neo-fucktard storm-of-shitness hitting Linux these days..
            Last edited by funkSTAR; 01-07-2013, 10:59 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
              Compiz is not yet another compositing manager as he claims.
              As far as I understand, Compiz is the only compositing manager that can be extended/modified with plugins.
              No, most window managers are extensible with plugins. AFAIK both KWin and Mutter support plugins. Gnome Shell was initially implemented as a Mutter plugin. Nowadays any Gnome Shell extension can modify the window management completely.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                How about some canonical-fused waylandish in-house skunkwork whizbang built from CA desires under heavy infuence of a varity of drugs? Add a shell built on Qt and a bit more spyware. Then you got yourself a nice pot luck of all the shit, FUD, closedness and greed which made Apple and Microsoft so great. That seems more fun to Mr Shuttleworth than going with anything smelling of openness which cant be corrupted or closed down.

                I really do hope Canonical does this, it makes it so much easier to avoid this neo-fucktard storm-of-shitness hitting Linux these days..
                Cannonical wants to run Ubuntu on TVs and smartphones, so Qt seems to be the best option to them. They wouldn't have to split resources to work on gtk desktop and Qt everywhere else like yhey're doing right now.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                  Cannonical wants to run Ubuntu on TVs and smartphones, so Qt seems to be the best option to them. They wouldn't have to split resources to work on gtk desktop and Qt everywhere else like yhey're doing right now.
                  Yeah. Qt is as shitty, shady and all about CA&skunkworks like Canonical. It is like the perfect dating match. I really hope they will marry! They probaly end like that anyway. It seems like the latest mergeup in systemd land is heading towards a CoreOS which doesnt suits Mr Skunkworths evil plans. A just and fair payback from RH. Lolz.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                    Cannonical wants to run Ubuntu on TVs and smartphones, so Qt seems to be the best option to them. They wouldn't have to split resources to work on gtk desktop and Qt everywhere else like yhey're doing right now.
                    They've said that QML/QT is targeted only at the "phone/mobile" side. They still recommend and support gtk for desktop apps.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                      Yeah. Qt is as shitty, shady and all about CA&skunkworks like Canonical. It is like the perfect dating match. I really hope they will marry! They probaly end like that anyway. It seems like the latest mergeup in systemd land is heading towards a CoreOS which doesnt suits Mr Skunkworths evil plans. A just and fair payback from RH. Lolz.
                      You're weird.

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                      • #12
                        Good call.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by johnc View Post
                          You're weird.
                          Why? That is what is happening.

                          Canonical doing skunkwork which contains some Qt.
                          http://mhall119.com/2012/12/a-sneak-...tu-skunkworks/

                          Systemd merging up nss-myhostname
                          http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/...e87aef76123db6

                          systemd purging maintainership for distro-specific shit
                          http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/...dd901cc7cb54fd

                          There you have it. the linux world is fragmenting more than ever. The systemd guys(more than LP and Kay) makes systemd more distro agnostic and merges up other boot/session-related stuff. To save maintainership for anyone who wants a generic core OS without any walled gardens. Canonical on the other hand is doing the total opposite; They are building a walled garden by the means of another walled garden(Qt).

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                          • #14
                            Most sad part about the skunkwork. The wording makes you feel they are proud of it and they expect you to be excited. "Hey we are doing some secret shit and you cant peek at the code, now please go use our CAed shit-interface called Unity we promise we share every keystroke with Amazon!"

                            I really hope for a market penetration like this.
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anf2qEjec3U

                            And FAIL factor like this.
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3N04Z3W4uc

                            Anyone buying into this shit is dumb.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                              They are building a walled garden by the means of another walled garden(Qt).
                              Yes, an open source (licensed for both GPL and LGPL) library is quite the walled garden... *insert remark about how GPL and LGPL both protect the freedom to do what you want with the code*

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