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  • #16
    Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
    On a serious note is there anything in wayland that prevents the porting of full DEs on it??
    I do not believe so. Most DE's have their own compositor, so they will either need to port the DE to use Weston, or port their X11 compositor to Wayland.

    The DE wars appear to have taken such a toll on the FOSS ecosystem that I honestly cannot anticipate what will come of all of this.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
      Writing Linux related code/apps on Mac OS X decreases the quality of code by 68.7%. Fact. And i have numbers to prove it.


      On a serious note is there anything in wayland that prevents the porting of full DEs on it??
      Some GTK 3 apps run natively, (some segfault because they have some x11 stuff coded in the app)

      I was also able to get the KDELIBS frameworks samples to work on qt5 with the native Wayland backend (on the livecd) but I'm sure once I figure out how, I could complie kde-baseapps

      ...I think the biggest issue right now is I don't think all window managment features exist in Wayland/weston right now...

      EDIT: well the universal wlshm "driver" for the nested xwayland server could use some work, it's why xwayland apps appear glitchy
      Last edited by nerdopolis; 08-29-2012, 03:20 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by nerdopolis View Post
        ...I think the biggest issue right now is I don't think all window managment features exist in Wayland/weston right now...
        Elaborate.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
          Elaborate.


          I think things like raising/lowering keepabove/keepbehind and like focus prevention...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
            Hell's gates will open in about 2 months I guess...Knowing Canonical we can expect Ubuntu 13.04 jump on wayland and make it mandatory and probably since 12.10 is coming in about 2 months we can expect even 12.10 to run wayland with about 2 hours of testing from the team.... A sad day indeed it will be, oh God of Wayland have mercy on us, the ones that don't want to reboot after an upgrade and stare into the black abyss of the terminal screen because of incompatible drivers and bugs!
            Nono, you got it wrong, Ubuntu will remove terminals too in favor of Wayland. So if wayland fails, you don't get a text console even.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
              Hell's gates will open in about 2 months I guess...Knowing Canonical we can expect Ubuntu 13.04 jump on wayland and make it mandatory and probably since 12.10 is coming in about 2 months we can expect even 12.10 to run wayland with about 2 hours of testing from the team.... A sad day indeed it will be, oh God of Wayland have mercy on us, the ones that don't want to reboot after an upgrade and stare into the black abyss of the terminal screen because of incompatible drivers and bugs!
              Ubuntu doesn't compile GTK with the Wayland backend enabled yet.
              nouveau and radeon does not have Xwayland merged in yet.

              Ubuntu 12.10 is in a feature freeze. Wayland is in available in the repository, but will not be installed by default.

              Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
              Elaborate.
              You can move, resize, maximize, unmaximize and close windows.
              However, you can not minimize windows. Minimize functionality is not implemented yet. There is no taskbar.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                The worse it is the faster it will be merged seems to be the Canonical philosophy so that's why I'm worried.
                Not really.
                GTK have support for Wayland.
                But Ubuntu did not compile in the support for Wayland in GTK with the --enable-wayland switch.
                I wish they would enable the Wayland backend though since it should not affect the X11 backend.

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