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  • #31
    Ubuntu's 3.13 kernel misses 2 possible UVD patches, but one thing should be noted, all vdpau libs that can be compiled from mesa are only 1.3 mb compressed, you can forget a size issue. I created a package with only vdpau libs called libg3dvl-mesa similar to the Ubuntu PPA but without xvmc and everybody can look at the deb size, thats usually the size a live iso gets bigger.

    http://kanotix.com/files/fix/mesa.ex...0.3-0kanotix1/

    Kanotix has nightly iso images with that mesa called "special", which have got binary drivers in gfxdetect mode and latest stable mesa (with needed uvd patches). Very simple to verify if it would work...

    http://nightly.kanotix.acritox.com/l...DE-special.iso
    http://nightly.kanotix.acritox.com/l...pecial.iso.md5

    Packages installed you see here:

    http://nightly.kanotix.acritox.com/l...ecial.packages

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    • #32
      Originally posted by TheSoulz View Post
      ubuntu 12.04 is 733mb
      13.10 is 833 or 883 mb

      both 64bit so i assume 32bit would be even smaller

      theres alot more space they can use to include stuff like full language packs and stuff like that on the image.
      The current trusty ISO is 909mb 64bit and 922mb 32bit this extra size excuse is bullshit

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DDF420 View Post
        The current trusty ISO is 909mb 64bit and 922mb 32bit this extra size excuse is bullshit
        Just a friendly reminder that those are DAILY. They do not worry about squeezing it really far down until the actual release.
        That being said, yes, the size argument is retarded.

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        • #34
          what the big problem?

          what the big problem? i install arch last and nothing come in iso, i nedd to build the system... i install today windows 7 in laptop i need to install every bullshit driver network, video, etc... i don t see what the big question here about this and what is the "real" problem. no OS come working out of box well even with pre-installed windows mac, etc. mt sister samsung laptop with windows 8 for example, the sound drivers don t work (i don t believed when i see it to)

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          • #35
            Originally posted by curaga View Post
            There were game-changing vdpau fixes just recently, some to the kernel too. Perhaps their target kernel won't include those, and so the experience would suck even if they enabled the userspace option.
            Game changing in what way?

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            • #36
              I think the out of the box experience is important, i usually give hints which ISO would fit best for a hd install for a specific use case and hardware. If you need more customisation it is easy to build images with different apps/drivers preinstalled. Usually i am done with a fully working Linux hd install incl. some tools I can not add to the standard ISO images in less than 30 mins when installed from usb key (with nighly images you save the time to run an update later). In that time you might have installed Win 8.1 but you still run updates and install 3 d drivers, and you did not have time to install an office app or 3rd party browser/mail client yet. Win 7 Sp1 would be a much huger pain to update after install. But you seem to have plenty of time for your OS installs...

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              • #37
                yippy skippy!

                I know every one is upset about vdpau not being including in ubuntu.. But look at the bright side.. You get 8 megabytes of free space to use instead! WOW! That's like 8,388,608 bytes of infinite space! Think of all the pixel-art and text files you will be able to store on your 4TB hard-drive with all that extra space......amazing! Thanks ubuntu! You always know exactly what your users want!..

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Baconmon View Post
                  I know every one is upset about vdpau not being including in ubuntu.. But look at the bright side.. You get 8 megabytes of free space to use instead! WOW! That's like 8,388,608 bytes of infinite space! Think of all the pixel-art and text files you will be able to store on your 4TB hard-drive with all that extra space......amazing! Thanks ubuntu! You always know exactly what your users want!..
                  You miss the point Bacon, its 8MB's they save on the LiveCD's, which they apparently are still trying to force onto an 800mb CD..

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                  • #39
                    Size....really?

                    Could Ubuntu not just offer two options?
                    A CD size image for most basic functionality, and a second larger image, up to the size of of DVD that has the best selection of software and options enabled for the best user experience.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                      You miss the point Bacon, its 8MB's they save on the LiveCD's, which they apparently are still trying to force onto an 800mb CD..
                      i apreciate they keep it clean but not including stuff like this is bad.
                      if its something that isnt critial i would stand on theyr side, this is not the case

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                        You miss the point Bacon, its 8MB's they save on the LiveCD's, which they apparently are still trying to force onto an 800mb CD..
                        It's more like 1MB on the liveCDs after compression. And they could easily add a vdpau package in their main repository that just isn't installed by default. At least then you could get an official version rather than having to search for a PPA.

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                        • #42
                          Epic fail!

                          Epic fail in project management. It's so damn silly to have implemented and working feature and then fail to supply it due to own idiocy in project management. My wish to Canonical: fire all morons responsible for this idiocy. That's the only thing they deserve.

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                          • #43
                            I too was taken aback by this but remember something: this *is* an LTS release.

                            The VDPAU support seems to be working nicely (I've already said goodbye to fglrx on my laptop), but was still being worked on very little time ago, and hasn't yet received large-scale testing.

                            But being an LTS release, if they follow their current procedures it will mean that by the time 14.10 rolls around (a mere 8 months away) VDPAU will probably be rock solid, and they'll release a 14.10 enablement stack for 14.04, and all will be well.

                            Seems like a reasonable compromise to me.

                            What they are failing, is in providing proper communication for this. Just "lol no fit 8mb on cdieee" is not a good one, for all the reasons you all pointed out.

                            In addition, they current images don't target cd's anymore, they supposedly are aimed at 1gb pen drives (which usually dont have 1gb, especially after formatted).
                            Last edited by [Knuckles]; 02-19-2014, 05:32 AM. Reason: Typos

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                            • #44
                              don't know what's wrong with linux 3.x(tearing even on 480p videos), because my smarttv has linux 2.6.x and play excellent the videos(loaded from usb). I no longer use my pc(linux 3.x) to play videos, linux sucks is better on windows 7 , also in arch linux you have to enable the vdpau support for amd and intel... so its normal. bye
                              Last edited by felipe; 02-19-2014, 06:26 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                                Game changing in what way?
                                In the "it was a slideshow card X without the patch" way.

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