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    Phoronix: Mesa 10.0 Release Candidate Brings OpenGL 3.3

    While it's coming late, Mesa 10.0 (formerly known as Mesa 9.3) was released in the early hours of Sunday morning...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUzMTM

  • #2
    Release Candidate? Is it a "copy & paste typo" in the announcement? Mesa3D 10.0-rc1 came out in mid november.

    But I am glad it is here. My favorite emulators (higan and dolphin) depending on OpenGL 3.2/3.3.

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    • #3
      Great Job

      Thank for the hard work Mesa Devs.
      It's definately worth upgrading. Especially that the Dota 2 lockup issues on Sandybridge are fixed.
      Great job

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      • #4
        Hm, somehow the extracted release archive fails when running "make" and complains that aclocal and automake 1.11 is missing...
        Anyway, compiling the 10.0 final tag runs fine here.

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        • #5
          It's pretty exciting to know that OGL 4.x is all that's left for development, and it's even nicer to know that many parts throughout 4.x have already been completed. It shouldn't take too much longer for FOSS linux graphics to be complete in a feature perspective. What really excites me about that is once radeon and nouveau are all caught up with openGL functions, all that's left is optimizations and hardware-specific features. This means that all future releases of GPUs will come out with support much quicker, and the performance gap between closed source drivers will slim into negligence. The intel drivers are pretty much at that point already.

          I'm thinking maybe 2 years from now, closed source drivers will be obsolete.

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          • #6
            This would be great.
            At least all the source engine games will finnaly work great on the AMD and Intel GPU's.

            BTW, how do i update the llvmpipe?
            I need it for OGL3.0 support on my HD 7850

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            • #7
              Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
              It's pretty exciting to know that OGL 4.x is all that's left for development, and it's even nicer to know that many parts throughout 4.x have already been completed. It shouldn't take too much longer for FOSS linux graphics to be complete in a feature perspective. What really excites me about that is once radeon and nouveau are all caught up with openGL functions, all that's left is optimizations and hardware-specific features. This means that all future releases of GPUs will come out with support much quicker, and the performance gap between closed source drivers will slim into negligence. The intel drivers are pretty much at that point already.

              I'm thinking maybe 2 years from now, closed source drivers will be obsolete.
              To make closed driver obsolete we will firstly need re-clocking support. I think nouveau will alway stay behind as it don't get help or documentation from the manifacturer

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              • #8
                Originally posted by gufide View Post
                To make closed driver obsolete we will firstly need re-clocking support. I think nouveau will alway stay behind as it don't get help or documentation from the manifacturer
                Nouveau gets help from NVIDIA since a few weeks. There is GPU Core reclocking in Linux 3.13 for Fermi/Kepler GPUs (no VRAM reclocking though, so the performance boost is small).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Calinou View Post
                  Nouveau gets help from NVIDIA since a few weeks.
                  Source?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by log0 View Post
                    Source?
                    He means the documentation.
                    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQ2NzY

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ObscureAngelPT View Post
                      This would be great.
                      At least all the source engine games will finnaly work great on the AMD and Intel GPU's.

                      BTW, how do i update the llvmpipe?
                      I need it for OGL3.0 support on my HD 7850
                      There's an LLVM PPA for Debian-based distros (e.g. Ubuntu):
                      http://llvm.org/apt/

                      Once you've updated llvm and installed the headers, you still need to rebuild mesa against the newer llvm version.

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                      • #12
                        Mesa10 seems to be useless IMO if Radeon an Nvidia cant take advantage of it? an ya wonder why people still install the blob Nvidia an Catalyst drivers
                        Last edited by Anvil; 12-01-2013, 06:01 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Calinou View Post
                          Nouveau gets help from NVIDIA since a few weeks. There is GPU Core reclocking in Linux 3.13 for Fermi/Kepler GPUs (no VRAM reclocking though, so the performance boost is small).
                          That's a huge overstatement. It's more to the likes of "NVIDIA throws the Noveau devs some bread crumbs here and there so users aren't left with completely useless desktops". As soon as just a little bit of info on reclocking was requested, the NVIDIA guy got very reserved, basically saying "hmm, we'll have to think very hard about a solution where you can somehow get better power management, without us releasing any hw specs"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Anvil View Post
                            Mesa10 seems to be useless IMO if Radeon an Nvidia cant take advantage of it? an ya wonder why people still install the blob Nvidia an Catalyst drivers
                            Doubling performance is "useless"? Ok.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                              Doubling performance is "useless"? Ok.
                              Mesa10 is only really better for intel users . AFAIK an have read a bit that Mesa10 does not incorporate many if any advantages that Nouveau or Radeon people can take advantage of until the Radeon an Nouveau drivers themselves can take advantage of this New stuff in Mesa10

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