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  • Mesa 9.2 X.Org/Mir Ubuntu 13.10 Performance Benchmarks

    Phoronix: Mesa 9.2 X.Org/Mir Ubuntu 13.10 Performance Benchmarks

    Mesa 9.2 was finally pushed into the Ubuntu 13.10 archive on Thursday and with the upgrade to the open-source 3D graphics library/drivers come many performance improvements and new features. Mesa 9.2 has already been benchmarked extensively on Phoronix, but with its arrival on Ubuntu 13.10, here are some Intel OpenGL benchmarks looking at the performance of Mesa 9.1.6 (Mesa up to now in 13.10 and previously shipped in Ubuntu 13.04) against the new Mesa 9.2.0 release. Testing happened on both an original X.Org Server and then when running both releases on Mir/XMir.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=19083

  • #2
    Wow, the difference is so minor now. Maybe I'll reconsider staying removing Mir and installing Xorg on 14.04. Well, that depends on whether The Bumblebee Project supports Xmir or Nvidia drops proper Optimus support between now and then as well.

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    • #3
      Do a Wayland one

      Michael, can you publish a similar (X)Wayland benchmark just to counterbalance?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MartinN View Post
        Michael, can you publish a similar (X)Wayland benchmark just to counterbalance?
        Xwayland is Garbage Atm and a full Wayland port is only week(s) away

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
          Xwayland is Garbage Atm and a full Wayland port is only week(s) away
          Port of what?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MartinN View Post
            Port of what?
            For testing you will have E19, Gnome, and some time soon KDE all ported to Wayland
            KDE and E19 can run on Wayland atm Martin Grlin was running KDE in full Wayland mode weeks ago
            for info on E19 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQ0MzA

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
              For testing you will have E19, Gnome, and some time soon KDE all ported to Wayland
              KDE and E19 can run on Wayland atm Martin Grlin was running KDE in full Wayland mode weeks ago
              for info on E19 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQ0MzA
              http://e18releasemanager.wordpress.c...1/#comment-525

              According to this comment E18 will be able to run X less. From the horses mouth.

              Also this.
              http://e18releasemanager.wordpress.c...1/#comment-529

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                http://e18releasemanager.wordpress.c...1/#comment-525

                According to this comment E18 will be able to run X less. From the horses mouth.

                Also this.
                http://e18releasemanager.wordpress.c...1/#comment-529
                Nice but you best watch out posting around the same time dh04000 will start calling us the same person

                http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...re-same-person

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                • #9
                  This is ultimately great/the desired goal, but what of non-gtk/non-Qt apps? I dunno, maybe some people want to run xeyes, for all I care . I thought work was being done on X to modify it in such a way to run reliably atop Wayland (i.e. xWayland) and that X-apps would be able to run unmodified. Has this intention changed, or did I miss something here?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MartinN View Post
                    This is ultimately great/the desired goal, but what of non-gtk/non-Qt apps? I dunno, maybe some people want to run xeyes, for all I care . I thought work was being done on X to modify it in such a way to run reliably atop Wayland (i.e. xWayland) and that X-apps would be able to run unmodified. Has this intention changed, or did I miss something here?
                    Xwayland is being worked on just not readly yet and it will run lets say tux cart and 2d apps etc

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MartinN View Post
                      This is ultimately great/the desired goal, but what of non-gtk/non-Qt apps? I dunno, maybe some people want to run xeyes, for all I care . I thought work was being done on X to modify it in such a way to run reliably atop Wayland (i.e. xWayland) and that X-apps would be able to run unmodified. Has this intention changed, or did I miss something here?
                      Yes, that's the idea, but since it will be upstream, it sticks to upstream release cycles and need some work.
                      Anyway, there will be no valid benchmark to counterbalance for a simple reason: one is to measure a DE on XMir, while XWayland was never designed, intended nor is any need to run a DE on XWayland. The idea of XWayland is to run rootless and run single apps on it. And that should be the idea of XMir, too.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
                        Yes, that's the idea, but since it will be upstream, it sticks to upstream release cycles and need some work.
                        Anyway, there will be no valid benchmark to counterbalance for a simple reason: one is to measure a DE on XMir, while XWayland was never designed, intended nor is any need to run a DE on XWayland. The idea of XWayland is to run rootless and run single apps on it. And that should be the idea of XMir, too.

                        The benchmarks in this article were measuring games not desktops, so I don't see why a similar article couldn't be done for Wayland. If Michael wanted to Stoke some controversy he could benchmark XWayland vs XMir vs Xorg

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
                          Xwayland is being worked on just not readly yet and it will run lets say tux cart and 2d apps etc
                          Does the concept of punctuation exist to you?

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