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    Phoronix: Ubuntu Needs To Improve OpenGL Drivers For Gaming

    Discussions were held this morning in Copenhagen at the Ubuntu Developer Summit about improving audio and graphics support for Ubuntu Linux in order to propel the distribution as a first-rate gaming platform...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTIxODE

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    Ubuntu FOSS support
    prompting users to install the binary graphics drivers when needed for a game instead of using the slower, less-featureful, and buggy open-source graphics drivers.

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    • #3
      Since when has Ubuntu OpenGL devs? Sure they package mesa with newer snapshots than Debian but thats all.

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        I am sure Ubuntu will be a great gaming platform with developers having to target OpenGL 2.

        While the standard is up to OpenGL 4.3 and the competition is using DirectX 11.1.

        It cant even compete with the stuff from a decade ago.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kano View Post
          Since when has Ubuntu OpenGL devs? Sure they package mesa with newer snapshots than Debian but thats all.
          it's just what needs to be done ;-)
          ...

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            25 ms latency for PA vs 5 ms for pure Alsa....i knew that i was right and made the right choice

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              Ubuntu Software Center directly when needed for prompting users to install the binary graphics drivers
              No-no-no! Ubuntu should force AMD and Nvidia to develop their OOS drivers (to hire much more devs, to open documentation on power management, etc.)

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                instead of using the slower, less-featureful, and buggy open-source graphics drivers.
                Buggy open-source drivers? Have these guys ever seen Catalyst? r600g is so much more stable and reliable than that fglrx crap!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                  I am sure Ubuntu will be a great gaming platform with developers having to target OpenGL 2.

                  While the standard is up to OpenGL 4.3 and the competition is using DirectX 11.1.

                  It cant even compete with the stuff from a decade ago.
                  Most PC games out there are crappy console ports that target DirectX 9.
                  Maybe things will change with next-gen consoles, but we're talking 2014.

                  Also, graphical quality has little to do with the graphical backend you use and more to do with how good you are at using it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AJSB View Post
                    25 ms latencyd for PA vs 5 ms for pure Alsa....i knew that i was right and made the right choice
                    Congratulations, using alsa instead of pulseaudio is equivalent of reducing your distance to the speakers by 6,806 meters. I imagine it is very hard for you to go to concerts because the sound doesn't sync up with the musicians's movements you see.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
                      Congratulations, using alsa instead of pulseaudio is equivalent of reducing your distance to the speakers by 6,806 meters. I imagine it is very hard for you to go to concerts because the sound doesn't sync up with the musicians's movements you see.
                      +1

                      you dont have lags, when you play even on 60 ping [60ms]

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AJSB View Post
                        25 ms latency for PA vs 5 ms for pure Alsa....i knew that i was right and made the right choice
                        Yeah, this is the reason that to this day, people code everything in assembler for the additional 20 ms execution speed!

                        I'm so thirsty already for all the tears of people still using dmix and expecting Valve & co to give one flying shit about them

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                          Valve possibly launching Jockey / Ubuntu Software Center directly when needed for prompting users to install the binary graphics drivers when needed for a game instead of using the slower, less-featureful, and buggy open-source graphics drivers.
                          What I find most disturbing about this is the idea of Ubuntu trying to tie Valve to an Ubuntu only service, which understandably will not be adopted by many other major distributions.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
                            What I find most disturbing about this is the idea of Ubuntu trying to tie Valve to an Ubuntu only service, which understandably will not be adopted by many other major distributions.
                            It doesn't seem so much as Ubuntu trying to make Valve/Steam a Ubuntu exclusive but more like asking what will it take to get Steam successfully launched on Ubuntu aka the most popular linux desktop distro. Once it's running on Ubuntu, other distros will have an idea of what it takes to get it working and possibly make their own simular design changes to make support it. Overall the outcome should be at least we'll know what works and what needs redesign.
                            Last edited by tweak42; 10-30-2012, 05:10 PM.

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                              Originally posted by tweak42 View Post
                              It doesn't seem so much as Ubuntu trying to make Valve/Steam a Ubuntu exclusive but more like asking what will it take to get Steam successfully launched on Ubuntu aka the most popular linux desktop distro. Once it's running on Ubuntu, other distros will have an idea of what it takes to get it working and possibly make their own simular design changes to make support it. Overall the outcome should be at least we'll know what works and what needs redesign.
                              Well, Fedora will never make something like Jockey as it is opposed to shipping patented or proprietary drivers and codecs. Does that mean Steam will not work with it?

                              Now, they could just make Steam look for it and then not complain when it does not find it, but still.

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