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  • Ubuntu Developers Realize Need For Non-3D Desktop

    Phoronix: Ubuntu Developers Realize Need For Non-3D Desktop

    For Ubuntu 12.10 Canonical decided to abandon the Unity 2D desktop and just only support the standard Unity desktop with Compiz. When there isn't a proper OpenGL/3D driver available, LLVMpipe is used for running the GL commands on the CPU. This move caused lots of upset Ubuntu Linux users and the developers are now looking at what to do for a desktop that doesn't require 3D support...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTIxNzg

  • #2
    Twas about time Ubuntu embraced a real desktop.

    Good one!

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    • #3
      So they had a perfectly fine 2D version of Unity... got rid of it...

      Now they need one again.

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      • #4
        4th uninteresting piece of news of the day related to Ubuntu. Enough already.

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        • #5
          Retarted

          LXDE is a whole desktop environment.
          So they're going to use a whole different desktop environment as a fallback?
          Wow, that is just retarded!

          They should just use the GNOME Fallback session instead.

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          • #6
            They got rid of Unity2D because the Qt stuff they were using was getting depreciated in the future, afaik.

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            • #7
              Well they could just rename Kubuntu or Lubuntu to Ubuntu and call Ubuntu with Unity then Unibuntu

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kano View Post
                Well they could just rename Kubuntu or Lubuntu to Ubuntu and call Ubuntu with Unity then Unibuntu
                Or they could argue themselves into obscurity and let someone else like Mint provide an easy-to-use snapshot of Debian Sid.

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                • #9
                  they didn't get this right. what should be been written is:

                  "Ubuntu Developers Realize No Need for 3D on Desktop"

                  And also, I'm using MATE (ie GNOME2). Works better and faster than GNOME3 or Unity. Not sure if their strategy made sense. "Quick MUST make new things or it looks like we're stagnating!" "DOESNT MATTER IF ITS CRAP!!"

                  I guess that's the Silicon valley's own achilles heel

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                  • #10
                    My *phone* (HTC Incredible) has 3d acceleration. My phone before *that* (Motorola Droid) has 3d acceleration. My next phone is likely to be the Nexus 4. It has 3d acceleration. If you're looking to run Ubuntu on something less powerful than a 3-years old cell phone, maybe you should look at a command line interface.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ethana2 View Post
                      My *phone* (HTC Incredible) has 3d acceleration. My phone before *that* (Motorola Droid) has 3d acceleration. My next phone is likely to be the Nexus 4. It has 3d acceleration. If you're looking to run Ubuntu on something less powerful than a 3-years old cell phone, maybe you should look at a command line interface.
                      Well, while this is true ethana, don't forget about this thing called "demanding games". It's something we haven't seen for a good while, and will probably be seeing a lot in the future, and there's a lot of pressure on Canonical so these games run well. It doesn't matter what computer you have, Compiz/KWin/insert 3D environment or WM here: IS a performance hit.

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                      • #12
                        A tale of two Window Managers

                        Long ago in the a forgotten kingdom lived two designers for workflows. One was a lovely lady working down in Palo Alto California. She was sexy-drop-dead hot for a Computer Scientist. The other, well he was stinky, smelly and ate quite a few Apples. One day, our lovers met and Stinky Apples stole Sexy Parcs design. What you ended up with was WindowMaker after somebody freed the idea from propriety and made it open-sourced. On the other hand, Parc turned into Fluxbox which was always a free idea.

                        Fluxbox is the most productive desktop environment.

                        The developers who forked it from Blackbox contributed the single most important desktop environment the entire world has ever known.
                        Why? Because, try it and you'll like it. Couple it with Thunar (ever how it's spelled) and you should have all you need for managing disk volumes.

                        On the other hand, there's Windowmaker. Yet again Thunnar and you're good.

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                        • #13
                          So is using Win 8's effects and whatever Mac has. Every OS is advancing in it's interfaces, and 2D isn't cutting it.

                          They are working on improving the 3D performance already - and they've made strides - I'm playing OilRush on highest visuals on my 560 without a problem. Going back to 2D wouldn't be progress.

                          This Lubuntu thing isn't for users either - Lubuntu was there for users of old hardware already. It's for making Ubuntu apps easier to test for devs in VMs.

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                          • #14
                            I thought that as long as you are Undirecting Fullscreen Windows (and of course, running fullscreen. Not always possible or desirable, I know) that compositing wasn't really always a big deal. I've always just noticed the hits when I've had to run a game in a window. In KDE of course, thankfully I can just switch off Compositing completely with Shift-Alt-F12 and vice versa.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ethana2 View Post
                              My *phone* (HTC Incredible) has 3d acceleration. My phone before *that* (Motorola Droid) has 3d acceleration. My next phone is likely to be the Nexus 4. It has 3d acceleration. If you're looking to run Ubuntu on something less powerful than a 3-years old cell phone, maybe you should look at a command line interface.
                              you have never done development... have you? you have a new SoC and the stable gl drivers are the LAST thing that works. for months or even over a year you have to do your work WITHOUT them...

                              not to mention you "port" linux to your phone - not use android... port ubuntu to it.. you end up WITHOUT gl drivers as the ones for android wont work with x11 and compositing.. so stuck again... or you are in a vm, and if the vm of choice doesn't provide a solid working virtual 3d accelerator PLUS drivers for your os.. stuck again.

                              you are VERY OFTEN left without usable 3d drivers, even if the hardware has it. they are by far the most comlpex bits of your os driver layer and are the last to work. that's reality.

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