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  • XDC2012: Lots Of Progress On X, Mesa, Wayland

    Phoronix: XDC2012: Lots Of Progress On X, Mesa, Wayland

    XDC2012 Nürnberg ended last Friday after three days of vibrant discussions surrounding Mesa, X.Org, Wayland, and other graphics-related discussions for the Linux desktop. Here's a summary of the event that was a great success.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=17910

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    Not a single woman.

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    • #3
      Pretty good quality pics, no longer taken with an iphone I presume

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      • #4
        Originally posted by siride View Post
        Not a single woman.
        What did you expect? The conference facilities didn't have a kitchen :-P

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        • #5
          Originally posted by siride View Post
          Not a single woman.
          And feminists will complain that we exclude them, they just don't have the know how or commitment to work in this field (computing), same as you see very few male nurses or child minders.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lemonzest View Post
            And feminists will complain that we exclude them, they just don't have the know how or commitment to work in this field (computing), same as you see very few male nurses or child minders.
            And there's the sexism. You just *know* that women can't handle these computer thingies.

            I've known plenty of female programmers and they've been pretty darn good. And some of them, at least, don't like to engage in cowboy coding and prefer a more fastidious approach. The programming world could certainly use a dose of that.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by siride View Post
              And there's the sexism. You just *know* that women can't handle these computer thingies.

              I've known plenty of female programmers and they've been pretty darn good. And some of them, at least, don't like to engage in cowboy coding and prefer a more fastidious approach. The programming world could certainly use a dose of that.
              Exactly the point

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              • #8
                We're going thru the greatest (r)evolution in Linux's graphics stack since 1992, isn't it?

                I mean, DRI3, DRM2, Wayland, GL3+ open source drivers, the rise of EGL and deprecation of GLX, new OpenGL ABI, deprecation of X11, etc.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lemonzest View Post
                  And feminists will complain that we exclude them, they just don't have the know how or commitment to work in this field (computing), same as you see very few male nurses or child minders.
                  The mind boggles.
                  Last edited by Wingfeather; 09-24-2012, 03:02 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by siride View Post
                    And there's the sexism. You just *know* that women can't handle these computer thingies.

                    I've known plenty of female programmers and they've been pretty darn good. And some of them, at least, don't like to engage in cowboy coding and prefer a more fastidious approach. The programming world could certainly use a dose of that.
                    Way to be sexist in a post berating a guy for being sexist. Evidence suggests there aren't more woman programmers because we don't expect their to be more women programmers, and there aren't more male nurses for the same reason. Men get teased for doing things society has decided are feminine, and vice versa, both by people in the profession and and other people of both genders. Even before they get the chance, there is a desire to conform.

                    When people look different, they get classified, they classify themselves, and then they end up being different. You can't fix that, at best you can isolate people from existing societies so that they produce their own self-fulfilling prejudices.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TheCycoONE View Post
                      Way to be sexist in a post berating a guy for being sexist. Evidence suggests there aren't more woman programmers because we don't expect their to be more women programmers, and there aren't more male nurses for the same reason. Men get teased for doing things society has decided are feminine, and vice versa, both by people in the profession and and other people of both genders. Even before they get the chance, there is a desire to conform.

                      When people look different, they get classified, they classify themselves, and then they end up being different. You can't fix that, at best you can isolate people from existing societies so that they produce their own self-fulfilling prejudices.
                      Well, it's not exactly like society really rewards being a "nerd/geek", if you know what I mean... but we just stick with it because that's what we love doing =P

                      Anyway, is it weird that I could identify like 6 or 7 people in that group photo without ever having met them??

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                      • #12
                        the point is that women don't find hax0ring appealing. not that they don't have the aptitude for it. grace hopper was a computing giant and the first programmer was ada lovelace

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TheCycoONE View Post
                          Way to be sexist in a post berating a guy for being sexist. Evidence suggests there aren't more woman programmers because we don't expect their to be more women programmers, and there aren't more male nurses for the same reason. Men get teased for doing things society has decided are feminine, and vice versa, both by people in the profession and and other people of both genders. Even before they get the chance, there is a desire to conform.

                          When people look different, they get classified, they classify themselves, and then they end up being different. You can't fix that, at best you can isolate people from existing societies so that they produce their own self-fulfilling prejudices.
                          You didn't support your point that I was being sexist, and then went on to say basically what I already believe (not that you could have known that).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by asdx
                            No, this is mlankhorst.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by siride View Post
                              Not a single woman.
                              Several members of the X.Org Board noticed that as well - our prior conferences didn't have a ton of women, but usually had at least a few. We've not yet had a chance to discuss what we could or should do about that, but fortunately we've got a year until the next conference to consider the issue.

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