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  • Originally posted by locovaca View Post
    Wow, just wow. You're going to fault Microsoft for an Adobe product not working? Great. Linux sucks because Flash amd64 sucks.
    I was unaware that Adobe was responsible for the design of Windows. They'd have to be as that is what is causing the problems with vendors moving to 64 bit.

    Flash 64 works here just fine.

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    • Originally posted by oicupeking View Post
      I was unaware that Adobe was responsible for the design of Windows. They'd have to be as that is what is causing the problems with vendors moving to 64 bit.

      Flash 64 works here just fine.
      Adobe Reader 9 has an Open File option, so this is clearly something Adobe, not Microsoft, removed for Reader X. Faulting Microsoft for this is completely wrong.

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      • Originally posted by locovaca View Post
        Adobe Reader 9 has an Open File option, so this is clearly something Adobe, not Microsoft, removed for Reader X. Faulting Microsoft for this is completely wrong.
        Gimp has an open option, so any problems encountered with video drivers in Linux are clearly not the fault of the vendors. Makes about as much sense as what you wrote.

        I'll repeat, the architecture of Windows is the problem. Linux has made the transition to 64bit in a seamless manner. Windows hasn't. Do the math.

        The transition to 64 bit is where the chickens truly come home to roost for Microsoft. Windows 64bit, frankly, sucks greatly at running 32bit programs. This is something Linux did very well. I'll give another, completely Microsoft, example. The print control in SQL Reporting Services 2005 and 2008 will not run in 64bit IE. All Microsoft software and it's DOA. Why can't 64bit IE run that? Because the design of Windows made it hard enough where not even Microsoft can get it to work.

        All those 32bit closed source programs and drivers. As long as Windows stayed 32bit they could just keep pushing them forward. The move to 64bit has resulted in both programs and hardware becoming "abandonware."

        http://orders.visioneer.com/item.jsp?item=90-0510-300

        Doesn't work in Windows 7. Not in 32 or 64 bit. Microsoft's "compatibility guide" claims it does. Nope - no driver for either. None in sight.

        http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...20&region_id=1

        Go ahead and use the drop down to select your operating system. No 64 bit option?

        Bingo.

        With close source drivers piles and piles of hardware is now junk. Advantage Linux.

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        • Originally posted by oicupeking View Post
          Gimp has an open option, so any problems encountered with video drivers in Linux are clearly not the fault of the vendors. Makes about as much sense as what you wrote.
          You wrote the original complaint of blaming Microsoft for removing an Open File option from Reader X. If anyone makes no sense around here it started with that comment.

          I'll repeat, the architecture of Windows is the problem. Linux has made the transition to 64bit in a seamless manner. Windows hasn't. Do the math.
          No, actually, it wasn't seamless. It may seem seamless now, but it sure wasn't in 2002 when it started. It took Linux how many years to get a native, non-server 64 bit JVM? 5?

          Yup, things were just peachy back then:

          http://www.linuxtx.org/amd64faq.html

          The transition to 64 bit is where the chickens truly come home to roost for Microsoft. Windows 64bit, frankly, sucks greatly at running 32bit programs. This is something Linux did very well. I'll give another, completely Microsoft, example. The print control in SQL Reporting Services 2005 and 2008 will not run in 64bit IE. All Microsoft software and it's DOA. Why can't 64bit IE run that? Because the design of Windows made it hard enough where not even Microsoft can get it to work.
          A little googliing reveals that this is related to a bad Killbits Hotfix, not a 32 vs 64 bit mismatch.

          In fact, in the last post, you can clearly see that there are 3 .cabs, one for each architecture Microsoft supports:

          http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/for...-b2c5f03d3c07/

          All those 32bit closed source programs and drivers. As long as Windows stayed 32bit they could just keep pushing them forward. The move to 64bit has resulted in both programs and hardware becoming "abandonware."

          http://orders.visioneer.com/item.jsp?item=90-0510-300
          Let me guess, it's Microsoft's fault that Visioneer hasn't released a driver for *their* product since 2005, but it's not the Linux communities fault that Sun held back JVM development, right?

          Doesn't work in Windows 7. Not in 32 or 64 bit. Microsoft's "compatibility guide" claims it does. Nope - no driver for either. None in sight.

          http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...20&region_id=1

          Go ahead and use the drop down to select your operating system. No 64 bit option?

          Bingo.

          With close source drivers piles and piles of hardware is now junk. Advantage Linux.
          Didn't see Linux in that list either. Maybe you should write some open source Windows 64 bit drivers and help them out? Or maybe boycott their products, just as everyone in the Linux community vows to do when a particular company isn't releasing Linux drivers or every spec about their hardware?

          It's a humorous double standard, really. Company fails to support Windows = Microsoft is Evil. Company fails to support Linux = Company is Evil.

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