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  • #31
    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
    I checked Haiku out and took a good look at it. Frankly, I don't see the point. You run the same applications on it that you do on Linux (if they run.) Other than that, it has no way of installing software correctly; no installer architecture and no package manager and it's single user. Something you unzip will stay there and you have to hunt down the files as you did in the MS-DOS days.
    Unzip and run most programs for Haiku. Little real need for a package manager actually. You obviously didn't try very hard.


    There's a start menu of sorts, something that looks like a task manager and weird window decorations that make using the computer very difficult (maximizing, minimizing, resizing, etc.) A bit brain damaged design. But that's just a window manager anyway, no reason to switch OS for that.
    Its not built on top of linux, its a true hybrid micro kernel. Its not a windows manager on top of a linux kernel. It is its own animal.

    maximizing resizing is very simple.

    I don't see the point. I think people using Haiku are in the same group of people who still use Amigas and Atari STs: nostalgics. I suppose for some it's cool to install something on a PC today that is a clone of BeOS. But other than that, it's just pointless.

    Yeah and here it is being developed anyways. At least users are willing to pay coders.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by kirillkh View Post
      Quite the opposite. This is why it is so successful that I enjoy using it.
      That sentence didn't make a lot of sense.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by kirillkh View Post
        Quite the opposite. This is why it is so successful that I enjoy using it.
        its so desktop sucessful that it might have a 1% market share ? if it was a car brand, it'd be out of bussiness.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
          That sentence didn't make a lot of sense.
          It wouldn't make a lot of sense if you judged the success of Linux by its adoption instead of its merit.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by kirillkh View Post
            It wouldn't make a lot of sense if you judged the success of Linux by its adoption instead of its merit.
            what merit exactly is that ?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Thatguy View Post
              its so desktop sucessful that it might have a 1% market share ? if it was a car brand, it'd be out of bussiness.
              It's not a car brand, it's an advanced tool for people who know how to use it. Now hand over your geek card and get out of my lawn.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Thatguy View Post
                Unzip and run most programs for Haiku. Little real need for a package manager actually. You obviously didn't try very hard.
                I unzipped in the wrong place. I had files all over the place.

                An OS should either offer installers, a package manager, or some form of application bundle support. Period. I had my share of MS-DOS in past, nobody wants *that* again, lol.

                Its not built on top of linux, its a true hybrid micro kernel. Its not a windows manager on top of a linux kernel. It is its own animal.
                Who cares.

                Btw, window managers don't run on top of the Linux kernel. They're "their own animals".

                How could you, you've become adjusted to endless feature creep.
                No, I just don't see the point or cloning BeOS. Let it die already. The Haiku devs could have spent their time inventing something new and fresh, not re-inventing a dead horse that has nothing to offer by today's standards and that no one wants.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                  I unzipped in the wrong place. I had files all over the place.
                  did you follow the directions ?

                  unzip to /boot/


                  An OS should either offer installers, a package manager, or some form of application bundle support. Period. I had my share of MS-DOS in past, nobody wants *that* again, lol.
                  seems to be working fine for apple on the MAC without a installer.


                  Who cares.

                  Btw, window managers don't run on top of the Linux kernel. They're "their own animals".
                  Yes window managers do run On Top of the linux kernel. you have kernel and then everything on top of it. Like a stack of pancakes.


                  No, I just don't see the point or cloning BeOS. Let it die already. The Haiku devs could have spent their time inventing something new and fresh, not re-inventing a dead horse that has nothing to offer by today's standards and that no one wants.
                  they had to get to where they wanted to go. Its alot fresher then the unix design. Well some people do want it, obviously judging from the bounty. they even raised money for it.

                  It has plenty to offer, but maybe it doesn't offer what you want. which BTW is fine.

                  I like muscle cars, maybe you like station wagons ? Point being we all have our own tastes. If the Devs wanted to work on linux, they would have. Instead they brought us a nice piece of tech that actually runs pretty good for alpha software.

                  your entitled to your opinion but having been a linux users, I don't see the appeal of linux. I spent more time fixing shit then I did using my computer. Not usually the kernel but everything around it.

                  So I prefer to use windows XP and Haiku. Its my choice.

                  If you prefer linux feel free to keep using it. If you like Mac, feel free to use it.

                  but for god sakes, don't bash the hardwork of others.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by kirillkh View Post
                    It's not a car brand, it's an advanced tool for people who know how to use it. Now hand over your geek card and get out of my lawn.
                    Pfft son, I have had my geek card likely alot longer then you've been alive. I work in motorola hc11 assembler.

                    I earned my geek card a long time ago. Maybe you should try cutting your grass.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by kirillkh View Post
                      It wouldn't make a lot of sense if you judged the success of Linux by its adoption instead of its merit.
                      where is that merit ?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Thatguy View Post
                        did you follow the directions ?

                        unzip to /boot/
                        I made a mistake. Should I go back in time?

                        Also, how do I delete it again with files all over the place?


                        seems to be working fine for apple on the MAC without a installer.
                        I said "installer, packager or application bundles". OS X has app bundles. Haiku does not. Also, OS X has an installer: Package Maker.


                        Yes window managers do run On Top of the linux kernel. you have kernel and then everything on top of it. Like a stack of pancakes.
                        No. Window managers run on top of X11.

                        but for god sakes, don't bash the hardwork of others.
                        Bashing? I did not. You seem to very hostile and intolerant to people who simply don't see any point in Haiku. Yes, it's your precious. But I don't see any freaking point in it. That's not bashing. That's expressing my opinion about it. If you don't want to hear it, please, for heaven's sake, don't read it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                          I made a mistake. Should I go back in time?

                          Also, how do I delete it again with files all over the place?
                          I dunno try dragging them to the trash can, its in the upper left hand corner. Looks like a trash can. Pretty obvious.



                          I
                          said "installer, packager or application bundles". OS X has app bundles. Haiku does not. Also, OS X has an installer: Package Maker.

                          it'll be apackage manager that uses a bundling/dependnacy resolution setup, its being implemented now. theres also a package manager on haikuware. works halfway decent actually.

                          No. Window managers run on top of X11.
                          which runs on top of the kernel.


                          Bashing? I did not. You seem to very hostile and intolerant to people who simply don't see any point in Haiku. Yes, it's your precious. But I don't see any freaking point in it. That's not bashing. That's expressing my opinion about it. If you don't want to hear it, please, for heaven's sake, don't read it.
                          I really wish I understood why people use linux. I mean, Look you can do anything you want on windows. Seriously, how else would anyone ever use MS office or Excel or Mediaplayer or Use a functional version of adobe flash, hell I mean its no sweat to decrypt, rencode and burn a back up DVD copy. Handy programs like 1clickDVD make it a snap.

                          Wow linux is so backwards, I mean they can't even let me install the Os without having to screw with Grub. Between all the compiling and recompiling how does one ever get a functional linux system. Hlaf the time package managers break another application becuase of some lib.


                          Mind you, I just dished back what you've been dealing the very excited group of haiku users having been hearing from you and several others all day about the gallium port.

                          Maybe you should go back and reread what you said and think about it for a bit before you respond back.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Thatguy View Post
                            its so desktop sucessful that it might have a 1% market share ? if it was a car brand, it'd be out of bussiness.
                            Linux doesn't have 1 percent market share. You are a liar. You are repeating and parroting lies.

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vgQalXaIxs

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Hephasteus View Post
                              Linux doesn't have 1 percent market share. You are a liar. You are repeating and parroting lies.

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vgQalXaIxs
                              in terms of home desktop use it does, If you include enterprise its likely pushing 10% tops.

                              Mac is easily tripple that.

                              I can prove it to. If I ask 1000 people what Os they use randomly on their home PC. they will say windows and 1 guy will say linux.

                              Its pretty cut and dry.

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                              • #45
                                Linux sucks so much and yet you're willing to pay 2000 bucks to get its "pancake" technology.

                                Go invent your own if you're so great.

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