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  • #11
    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    So if someone was to say,

    "I haven't seen a yeti yet." You would consider that a double negative?
    Ok, point taken. It was a poor choice of words.
    However, it still was a weird sentence

    Originally posted by Pfanne View Post
    sweet no comment about the article itself xD
    is this the grammarboard?
    The reason I even mentioned it was because I do think of Phoronix media as a professional news (among other things) organization.
    Last edited by JeanPaul145; 06-24-2009, 02:59 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
      I think you guys are getting hung up on the structure and not necessarily a double negative.

      "Neither of these new state trackers have yet to arrive"

      would have read better as such

      "Neither of these new state trackers have arrived yet"

      It's more an issue of confusing tense then a double negative.
      I think it's both, sort of. Tense is an issue, but the confusing part is that one of the negatives isn't literally present. The phrase "have yet to <present-tense verb>" substitutes for "haven't yet <past-tense verb>". It doesn't literally contain a negative, but the phrase taken as a whole (idiomatically) acts as a negative. For example, the following two phrases mean the same thing:

      "I haven't yet tried Fedora 11"
      "I have yet to try Fedora 11"

      So it's a double negative whose presence was probably influenced by the choice of tense.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
        I think it's both, sort of. Tense is an issue, but the confusing part is that one of the negatives isn't literally present. The phrase "have yet to <present-tense verb>" substitutes for "haven't yet <past-tense verb>". It doesn't literally contain a negative, but the phrase taken as a whole (idiomatically) acts as a negative. For example, the following two phrases mean the same thing:

        "I haven't yet tried Fedora 11"
        "I have yet to try Fedora 11"

        So it's a double negative whose presence was probably influenced by the choice of tense.
        That is *exactly* what I originally meant. Thanks

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        • #14
          these sort of articles are so constipated

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