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  • Confidence In An Open NVIDIA Strategy?

    Phoronix: Confidence In An Open NVIDIA Strategy?

    Back during CES 2008 we reported that NVIDIA may be plotting an open-source strategy (according to a NVIDIA partner) as the ATI/AMD camp has been on a spree with releasing NDA-free specifications to the OSS community and supporting two open source drivers (Radeon and RadeonHD). Since then, Intel has also joined this open bandwagon by releasing the G965/G35 programming documentation in full (2D, 3D, video, everything) even though they have already have a reliable open-source driver.While NVIDIA has yet to publicize their intentions nor have we been able to get anyone at NVIDIA to confirm any of this information, something does definitely appear to be going on within their Santa Clara offices in regards to an improved Linux state...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NjM5Mw

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    NVIDIA is wasting Nouveau devs' time by waiting so long to announce

    By waiting so long to announce their open source intentions, NVIDIA is wasting Nouveau developers' time and resources because pretty much all their work will have gone to waste (think AVIVO driver).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by stan View Post
      By waiting so long to announce their open source intentions, NVIDIA is wasting Nouveau developers' time and resources because pretty much all their work will have gone to waste (think AVIVO driver).
      I don't think Nouveau work will turn in a waste of time and resource: Nvidia "strategy" smells of vaporware to me. Who cares about a "strategy"? We need no stinking strategy! We need specs and/or good, complete and unobfuscated open drivers and (even better) co-operation (Yay, FOSS is based on cooperation and coding, NOT market-alike strategies) with X, Mesa/Gallium3d and Nouveau teams. NOW! Everything else is crap.

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      • #4
        You sure won't get anywhere with that attitude - because things simply don't work that way.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Vadi View Post
          You sure won't get anywhere with that attitude - because things simply don't work that way.
          Strangely, they might become to be working that way. ATI is very definitely keeping their word and Intel's following suit.

          Actions speak louder than marketspeak. Either you plan on fixing the FOSS situation with regards to your drivers and DO it, or you don't. Spare us your "strategies", NVidia. Either do something or come right out and say you're not and face THAT music.

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          • #6
            One of my friends bought almost the exact some thing a week ago, T61/T9300/2GB... but with the A/G/N wifi+bluetooth and 9-cell battery. Yours could be an R61 though.

            The thing is, he looked around a lot and wanted ATI graphics in a 15.4" notebook with a T9xxx series processor, and literally couldn't find any. Dell doesn't have the new 45nm C2Duos yet, HP didn't have ATI graphics in such a notebook, and neither did Sony when you customize it on each of their websites. There is probably a good reason for this like a lack of the appropriate chipsets or something. NONE of the notebooks with ATI discrete graphics have a T9xxx processor on Newegg.

            Sidenote: He got the WXGA screen, which is still advertised as having a max of 1440x900 (among 4 other resolutions, WTF?) but had 1280x800 (like it's supposed to be), and since they don't offer a 1440x900 (WXGA+) anymore, they refunded him $56.25 (which is how much the WSXGA+ upgrade is), or he had the option of waiting another 2 weeks until they sent him the correct one. He took the refund.
            Last edited by audi100quattro; 03-15-2008, 01:18 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stan View Post
              By waiting so long to announce their open source intentions, NVIDIA is wasting Nouveau developers' time and resources because pretty much all their work will have gone to waste (think AVIVO driver).
              Aye, Nvidia is risking angering the people most qualified to work on open drivers. Well I think they'll be happy but still I wonder what they are gaining by dawdling...Unless they plan to release a completely open driver from day one...I can dream...

              also strategy is not a product, it is only a method. I wonder what they have in mind that requires so much planning

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              • #8
                If ATI really delivers on the Gallium3d/mesa stuff, as well as fixing the fglrx driver then nvidia will find themselves on the sidelines

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                • #9
                  Wow, so the T61 ship date was estimated to be April 3rd (http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id...1_notebook_lrg) and I've just been informed the notebook shipped out already... On the first business day, now that's impressive and has beaten all of my previous Lenovo ship times

                  Core 2 Duo T9300 "Penryn" and Quadro NVS 140M Linux benchmarks coming sooner than expected!
                  Michael Larabel
                  http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                  • #10
                    ^ Yep, they were just as quick for my friend too, but clearing customs took up almost 2 days according to UPS. Still, very quick for a custom order shipped from China.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by audi100quattro View Post
                      ^ Yep, they were just as quick for my friend too, but clearing customs took up almost 2 days according to UPS. Still, very quick for a custom order shipped from China.
                      Mine took no time at all to clear customs just now... Went through Alaska in just a matter of a couple hours.
                      Michael Larabel
                      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                      • #12
                        hm.. my friend's went through Louisville, KY and it was being shipped to Missouri. They did correct their website to not say one of the WXGA resolutions is 1440x900 though.

                        Looking forward to the benchmarks! I'm curious to see it compared to an equivalent card with 256MB or 512MB of video ram if possible since the non-media center T61's only come with 128MB. I'm guessing the average performance penalty (maybe -10-20%?) isn't worth the $200 hike Lenovo wanted for the media center T61s at 1280x800 or lower resolutions. It would depend on the game though.

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