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  • Nouveau Fermi Performance On Ubuntu 13.10

    Phoronix: Nouveau Fermi Performance On Ubuntu 13.10

    As the latest for our early Ubuntu 13.10 Linux performance benchmarks, here's a brief comparison of the Nouveau Gallium3D vs. NVIDIA binary graphics driver performance from a NVIDIA GeForce "Fermi" graphics processor...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQwOTc

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    and can any one tell me why Ubuntu users are getting Forced to use this junk? i'm getting ready to start Testing Mir as well

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
      and can any one tell me why Ubuntu users are getting Forced to use this junk? i'm getting ready to start Testing Mir as well
      You can use propriatery Nvidia if you want, its not installed by default. I wonder if Nouveau is in the same position as Radeon with performance being (almost) linear. If so... triple all of Nouveau's scores to see what it would be at if we had reclocking

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ericg View Post
        You can use propriatery Nvidia if you want, its not installed by default. I wonder if Nouveau is in the same position as Radeon with performance being (almost) linear. If so... triple all of Nouveau's scores to see what it would be at if we had reclocking
        so Nvidia support's Mir?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
          so Nvidia support's Mir?
          And there we have the wildcard. We'll have to see if Nvidia and AMD will push out Mir-compatible drivers in time for 13.10

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ericg View Post
            And there we have the wildcard. We'll have to see if Nvidia and AMD will push out Mir-compatible drivers in time for 13.10
            you need to stop telling joke's about AMD you may get some one's hope's up

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
              so Nvidia support's Mir?
              No, if I remember correctly, users of proprietary drivers will use plain old and fast X11.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by oleid View Post
                No, if I remember correctly, users of proprietary drivers will use plain old and fast X11.
                i can now tell you now Mir will Not work on Nouveau or proprietary drivers or AMD opensource Driver's i'm posting this From Ubuntu 13.10 and i can tell you Mir Sucks looks like it only works on Intel Driver's

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                • #9
                  Do we really have to turn every freaking thread into some ubuntu/mir bashing flame war fuelled by the usual trolls and fanbois?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by not.sure View Post
                    Do we really have to turn every freaking thread into some ubuntu/mir bashing flame war fuelled by the usual trolls and fanbois?
                    i tryed for hour's and hour's trying to get this Vaporware "Mir" to Work on Ubuntu 13.10 and, found out it is it is missing code, missing lib's, just missing, i really did want to Demo it, and Ubuntu users are getting Forced to use it on Nouveau Driver's, the funny part is i can Demo Wayland Just Fine and, i can even use it on AMD or Nvidia Card's, i just dont like the patch's for Xwayland i see why they was rejected but Mir is Using them...

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                    • #11
                      I have a hard time believing you're running Mir

                      Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
                      i can now tell you now Mir will Not work on Nouveau or proprietary drivers or AMD opensource Driver's i'm posting this From Ubuntu 13.10 and i can tell you Mir Sucks looks like it only works on Intel Driver's


                      I'm running Mir right now and it runs fine.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
                        i tryed for hour's and hour's trying to get this Vaporware "Mir" to Work on Ubuntu 13.10 and, found out it is it is missing code, missing lib's, just missing, i really did want to Demo it, and Ubuntu users are getting Forced to use it on Nouveau Driver's, the funny part is i can Demo Wayland Just Fine and, i can even use it on AMD or Nvidia Card's, i just dont like the patch's for Xwayland i see why they was rejected but Mir is Using them...
                        If you are using the AMD/NVIDIA blobs Ubuntu 13.10 will recognize that it has to fall back to pure X11. That's the plan. So unless you install nouveau for your nvidia card you won't be using X on XMir. The only persons who are forced to beta test the XMir hack are the Intel users. They don't have drivers that aren't compatible with Mir so it will always use it even when just regular X11 would be less buggy and faster.

                        From the last video I saw (Mir Dev Hangout) they said they expect AMD/NVIDIA to have compatible drivers by the time 14.04 ships where they want to have at least the Unity Shell native on Mir. Everything else will still run on XMir. I think that's still a bit unrealistic. AMD can't even keep up with X.Org and now they want them to implement changes to support their graphic stack that isn't even upstreamed.
                        Last edited by blackout23; 07-13-2013, 04:58 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
                          you need to stop telling joke's about AMD you may get some one's hope's up
                          AMD open source support is downright good.

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                          • #14
                            2.6x

                            It looks like the nVidia driver clocks the cores/memory at about 2.6x what Nouveau does. According to these benchmarks, that puts Nouveau at more than 80% of nVidia's performance per clock already

                            Once that reclocking hits, I bet we're going to run into some scalability problems right away. But if we don't, or after they're fixed, we're looking at a suitable replacement for the nVidia driver for a *lot* of things and not just compiz.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by caryhartline View Post
                              I'm running Mir right now and it runs fine.
                              you running on intel ?

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