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  • A Massive Nouveau Code Push Happened Today

    Phoronix: A Massive Nouveau Code Push Happened Today

    A massive Nouveau code push went through today affecting libdrm, the Mesa Gallium3D drivers, and the xf86-video-nouveau driver. The whole shebang should offer some performance improvements across the board while one driver has been completely rewritten and affects three generations of hardware...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTA4NzI

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    That's what I mean with "the community seems more involved in nvidia reverse engineering than radeon"
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    AMD: X1950XTX, HD3870, HD5870
    Intel: GMA45, HD3000 (Core i5 2500K)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
      That's what I mean with "the community seems more involved in nvidia reverse engineering than radeon"
      Indeed, but AMD as a company is way more friendy than Nvidia. It's difficult to know where to put your money right now... However let me send a gigaton of kudos to the nouveau developers right now!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by r1348 View Post
        Indeed, but AMD as a company is way more friendy than Nvidia. It's difficult to know where to put your money right now... However let me send a gigaton of kudos to the nouveau developers right now!
        I'd say it's pretty clear if open drivers are something you care about, it'd need to be AMD (or rather Intel, at the moment to be fair) all the way. Simply put, the best way to support open drivers, is to support the companies which support them. All credit to the community, and Redhat though, the open source drivers have quickly going from "meh" to something very usable day-to-day

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        • #5
          Nouveau isn't an option for me (too much unstable), I was just wondering why nvidia gets more efforts from the community...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
            Nouveau isn't an option for me (too much unstable), I was just wondering why nvidia gets more efforts from the community...
            I'm guesstimating that it may be due to the fact that in legacy terms nvidia had better cards, better linux support, and a better market share. It makes sense due to the history, but I suspect (hope) AMDs attitude towards open technologies will level the playing field for them.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by r1348 View Post
              Indeed, but AMD as a company is way more friendy than Nvidia. It's difficult to know where to put your money right now... However let me send a gigaton of kudos to the nouveau developers right now!
              I could be wrong but didn't VLIW make it much harder to write and optimise drivers? As I understand it southern islands and beyond aren't VLIW and they should be much easier to optimise.

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              • #8
                Absence of documentation makes it even harder...
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                • #9
                  I hope it fix this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37681

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                  • #10
                    Since AMD is working with open source won't they push documentation shortly (if not already)?

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                    • #11
                      So, when is this getting pulled into Arch?

                      My nv4x is itching to try it out. ^_^

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by chris200x9 View Post
                        Since AMD is working with open source won't they push documentation shortly (if not already)?
                        I'm not sure about documentation, but the Southern Islands initial support got pulled about 10 hours ago:
                        http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mes...9227e4f337ec9e

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                        • #13
                          https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Commo...BIOS_emulation

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
                            I was just wondering why nvidia gets more efforts from the community...
                            I would assume that it's because it's needed. If there were no community involvement there wouldn't be any open source driver for nVidia. AMD however has team working on their open source GPU driver so altough community involvement helps it isn't required in the sameway.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
                              That's what I mean with "the community seems more involved in nvidia reverse engineering than radeon"
                              Imo it's not mainly due to Nvidia's market share, but because the other 2 types of cards are being taken care of by their vendors (AMD & Intel), so the community can focus (almost solely) on Nvidia.

                              Hadn't AMD (and Intel even earlier) gone open source - the nvidia devs efforts would be diluted to take care of AMD (and Intel) as well.

                              So the mere fact that AMD went open source helped indirectly a lot to improve Nouveau.

                              EDIT: Teho beat me to this.
                              Last edited by cl333r; 04-14-2012, 03:19 AM.

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