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  • #16
    I don't see the point of making open drivers for fermi cards. If you own one of these bad boys your not gonna want to use anything but the proprietary driver to do all the fun stuff you payed $200+ for.

    Just me :-P

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Yuma View Post
      Why would anyone demand an audit on an open source driver that's had it's entire development catalogued in GIT history? They can get anyone they want to look at Nouveau code any day of the week.
      What I mean is if an open driver starts encroaching on nVidia's or 3rd party's IP then there could be some noise. But I am sure the devs are being quite careful how they go about their RE work so this sort of thing happening will be rather remote.

      Just sort of playing devil's advocate in my earlier post.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by jmcharron View Post
        I don't see the point of making open drivers for fermi cards. If you own one of these bad boys your not gonna want to use anything but the proprietary driver to do all the fun stuff you payed $200+ for.

        Just me :-P
        In 2 years, there will be budget cards based on the same technology and people will be getting them in their Dell computers and the like.

        And many of them will want them to work out of the box instead of getting a VESA driver and having to navigate to strange websites to download strange binaries.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
          In 2 years, there will be budget cards based on the same technology and people will be getting them in their Dell computers and the like.

          And many of them will want them to work out of the box instead of getting a VESA driver and having to navigate to strange websites to download strange binaries.
          That makes sense. But nvidia.com isn't a strange website nor is downloading their driver strange. I use links to download the blob so I skip the vesa part :-)

          I think it would be sweet if they could start on OptImus support. That would be a big win for nouveau to beat nvidia to the punch on that...

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          • #20
            They can't beat Nvidia to the punch, because Nvidia has been rather clear that they have no intention of supporting linux with these chips.

            This means that there will be no closed-source driver for the Nouveau team to reverse engineer.

            Which means that it will be much more difficult to program the thing than it is with other hardware, and even that is bloody difficult.

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            • #21
              So at least they would be bring functionality to hardware that will never be officially supported rather than stealing work that has already been done and branding it opensource...

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              • #22
                You don't sound very appreciative of the nouveau team's efforts.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                  This means that there will be no closed-source driver for the Nouveau team to reverse engineer.
                  huh? Of course the blob supports fermi cards.

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                  • #24
                    It doesn't (and will not) support Optimus.

                    So it will be hard for the nouveau team to support Optimus.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                      It doesn't (and will not) support Optimus.

                      So it will be hard for the nouveau team to support Optimus.
                      Possibly they could RE the Windows driver somehow?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jmcharron View Post
                        So at least they would be bring functionality to hardware that will never be officially supported rather than stealing work that has already been done and branding it opensource...
                        Stealing work, wtf are you talking about? They are writing their *own* driver for hardware NVidia has refused to release docs. There's no theft in that. If you think otherwise, perhaps you should contact NVidia and tell them about the 'theft' that's going on.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                          and having to navigate to strange websites to download strange binaries.
                          I would hardly call nvidia "strange websites to download strange binaries.". Unless you audit every single piece of code byte by byte and know exactly what every bit of code does a piece of opensauce software is just as much a leap of faith. Hell there are cases where nefarious pieces of code have been mirrored across the globe for years in opensource solutions only to be found many years later. Having to grab a piece of source from who knows where on the net for sombody that you have no real personal knowledge of is just as not dangerous, if not more.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                            Having to grab a piece of source from who knows where on the net for sombody that you have no real personal knowledge of is just as not dangerous, if not more.
                            Yeah, why trust anyone on the Internet? Just go to the local store and buy an operating system? ;(

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by deanjo
                              Unless you audit every single piece of code byte by byte and know exactly what every bit of code does a piece of opensauce software is just as much a leap of faith.
                              I don't audit all of the code, but I am sure that at least some of it is audited by RedHat, IBM, Intel and others.

                              The fact that it CAN be audited is already important. And it works out of the box, the same way Nvidia doesn't.

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                              • #30
                                The rate at which the nouveau driver has progressed with no docs and having to reverse engineer everything is pretty dang impressive. Kudos to the devs.

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