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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    Then you can not use vdpau, but if you like to...
    Don't care. XV is very fine

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    • #17
      I'd like to use it on my mobile GeForce 4200 TI (nv28), if compositing and video works.

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      • #18
        heh ... the problem is the cards that don't require the ctx_voodoo also are not well supported at the moment in fact from the status matrix any thing less than a geforce 7xxx series isn't going to do much beyond 2D (which should be stable) and in the case of my geforce 2 nouveau is actually slower than nv for 2D http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix

        I beleive that is due to all the work going into the newer cards which is quite reasonalbe in my opinion since they are the low hanging fruit.

        I would like to see some proformace comparisons on the 2D side .... and 3D comparisons on cards that support it setting up git mesa drivers is also relativly trivial on archlinux and I imagine its fairly easy on fedora as well.

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        • #19
          I'll be trying it out in the near future with my nVidia GeForce 9500GS.

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          • #20
            KMS will greatly improve the usability of my Xorg-less server (which has a Geforce 8400 GS), and I think I'll try it on my two GTX 285 (main pc), but since I need 3d, SLI, Cuda and others it will be only a fallback. It is a great project though.

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            • #21
              planning on switching from the legacy nvidia binary to nouveau on a geforce 4 440mx now that nouveau is included in kernel.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Michael View Post
                I have no serious issues with Red Hat, if some of this article sounded negative in regards to Red Hat, it was because of information that I was made aware of in regards to this situation.
                Not true.

                However, we have learned that ctx_voodoo is not even needed for all graphics cards and that Red Hat was just attempting to ignore this little fact.
                Your personal opinion is clearly represented when you write "little".

                And again, you are completely ignoring that most of the kernel developers in the ML did NOT want Red Hat to merge. You may want to read Alan Cox's replies again.

                In fact I can't remember a single developer, except Linus, that wanted Red Hat to merge now, but I am sure you can find this ONE post.

                So for you next article I think you should put a little graph that shows the number of developers that wanted Red Hat to merge now versus those that wanted Red Hat to wait.

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                • #23
                  I will use the nouveau driver for my two desktops both running nvidia cards: Geforce 8800, Geforce 9600.

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                  • #24
                    AFAIK it is possible to run nv50 without ctxprogs but the card will be restricted to 3/4? FIFOs. 1 for fb, 2nd for Xorg, and whatever is left is for your disposal.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by hax0r View Post
                      AFAIK it is possible to run nv50 without ctxprogs but the card will be restricted to 3/4? FIFOs. 1 for fb, 2nd for Xorg, and whatever is left is for your disposal.
                      I dunno. I don't really think something like that is possible.

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                      • #26
                        Geforce 9800GT

                        I'm planning on trying it out on a geforce 9800GT.

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                        • #27
                          This makes me want to dust off my old 6/7xxx cards .

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                          • #28
                            I'd like to test on:

                            02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by phoronix View Post
                              that ctx_voodoo is not even needed for all graphics cards and that Red Hat was just attempting to ignore this little fact.
                              We didn't ignore it, we just don't really care about ancient cards you can't buy anymore, the number of users running nv40 and nv50 outweighs all others by a massive amount that I don't consider a nouveau driver that just supported pre-nv40 worth the time of upstreaming from a RH pov.

                              Also Linus only had an nv50 card so he wouldn't have been giving out.

                              Dave.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Apopas View Post
                                I plan to use nouveau with my 8500GT and yes Redhat did a lot to improve this opensource driver, unlike other companies.
                                From what I read yes they put a lot of work into it to get it into a usable state. So why flame them?

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