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    Phoronix: AMD "Hawaii" Open-Source GPU Acceleration Still Not Working Right

    Back in May I wrote about how AMD's open-source support for Hawaii was broken months after the Radeon R9 290 series was introduced... Fast forward to today, the AMD Hawaii open-source support is still broken...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTc0NjA

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    But, Catalyst isn't a piece of OpenGL support crap?

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    • #3
      I've fixed up a line in the article:
      Then again, if you've just spent several hundred dollars on an AMD Radeon R9 290 series graphics card, chances are you'll want to get a refund and buy nvidia

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      • #4
        Stop the AMD bashing please!

        Originally posted by teeedubb View Post
        I've fixed up a line in the article:
        Then again, if you've just spent several hundred dollars on an AMD Radeon R9 290 series graphics card, chances are you'll want to get a refund and buy nvidia
        Originally posted by Filiprino View Post
        But, Catalyst isn't a piece of OpenGL support crap?
        This doesn't help any one.

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        • #5
          So much for the myth that releasing hardware documentation means open source drivers will appear out of nowhere. Did you think the drivers will write themselves?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by teeedubb View Post
            I've fixed up a line in the article:
            Then again, if you've just spent several hundred dollars on an AMD Radeon R9 290 series graphics card, chances are you'll want to get a refund and buy nvidia
            So you get what? Another card that doesn't run on opensource stack and needs a closed blob...
            At least support for an amd card will come sooner or later; forget it about nvidia.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lowflyer View Post
              This doesn't help any one.
              Neither does doing a half arsed job **cough**AMD**cough**

              And comment like those do help - I'm sure you would like to know about cruddy products before buying them?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by blackshard View Post
                So you get what? Another card that doesn't run on opensource stack and needs a closed blob...
                At least support for an amd card will come sooner or later; forget it about nvidia.
                A card that works NOW, not maybe some time in the future.. Graphics cards aint like bottles of wine...

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                • #9
                  nvidia

                  don't buy amd cards, great hardware, garbage drivers the normal thing

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by teeedubb View Post
                    A card that works NOW, not maybe some time in the future.. Graphics cards aint like bottles of wine...
                    Maybe you miss something.

                    Fact: both latest amd and nvidia cards work *now* with their blobs.
                    Fact: amd cards will have fully open support in the future
                    Fact: nvidia cards have reverse engineered support you won't know how and when.

                    The rest is bul**hit

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by teeedubb View Post
                      A card that works NOW, not maybe some time in the future.. Graphics cards aint like bottles of wine...
                      Except it wouldn't work now.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rikkinho View Post
                        don't buy amd cards, great hardware, garbage drivers the normal thing
                        Don't buy NVIDIA, garbage everything.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blackshard View Post
                          Maybe you miss something.

                          Fact: both latest amd and nvidia cards work *now* with their blobs.
                          Fact: amd cards will have fully open support in the future
                          Fact: nvidia cards have reverse engineered support you won't know how and when.

                          The rest is bul**hit
                          No, but youre missing a few things:
                          Fact: fglrx is garbage. eg xvba + steamos
                          Fact: Again, you dont buy a top tier gpu in the hope that it will work well some day down the line...
                          Fact: nvidia support their gpus for longer than amd and imho past the cards relevance

                          And lets not forget the obvious here: these days the only reason to buy a dedicated gpu is for performance reasons - it isnt a necessity anymore. So why by one that is inferior to the other products on the market?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rikkinho View Post
                            don't buy amd cards, great hardware, garbage drivers the normal thing
                            I find that most people who complain about AMD's drivers usually have no idea what they're doing with their computer, and just blame what the bandwagon does.

                            I've had little issue with AMD and their drivers on my computers. Meanwhile, some people will swear up and down AMD's drivers caused their GPU to explode or some bs whenever they touched the GPU with a screwdriver or intentionally overvolted/clocked it.

                            I tend to take driver complaints on any hardware or platform from anyone with a grain of salt. Unless an issue can be explained on a technical level (like "graphics corruption on mouse pointer on Unity is due to the GLX extension ARB_Extention not being implemented correctly on radeonsi hardware"; note that's a random nonsense example), I'll assume the reporter is improperly placing blame somewhere, or just spreading FUD.

                            As for a personal experience, the open-source graphics drivers work well on my desktop 7850 and 7660G laptop (has a 7670M dGPU but I don't use it atm). Months ago, Catalyst did have slightly (slightly being between 5-15 FPS) better OpenGL performance, but also comes with it's share of issues (like my laptop only having about a 50/50 chance at starting up properly).
                            Last edited by Espionage724; 07-21-2014, 05:54 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by brad0 View Post
                              Except it wouldn't work now.
                              Huh? They do work and most importantly - they work very well.

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