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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
    I hope that doesn't include me as well.
    Sonadow, you're not being a jackass. You and I can disagree, debate, even argue. As long as you're being respectful and not launching personal attacks on people I don't care.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lesterchester View Post
      Why the hell is there so many articles about this all repeating the same thing? As if it makes a big deal and it's going to effect alot of people.
      Because you seem to like BSD related articles.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ericg View Post
        Yeah doesn't actually work like that... the GPL viral nature only applies for distribution.
        GPL is viral for freedom, and BSD is fuel for proprietary that is viral for enslavement.

        Thats said, its sure nice that anti-BSD trolls are banned, but its also nice if pro-BSD trolls are banned.

        For drivers, its sure better to use BSD license if it comes to company, because that way the company can offer the driver for wide array of platforms.
        However, if company seeks user contributions, GPL is better.

        All those license* topics seem to have enough potentual for flame and trolling, as politics.

        Perhaps, it would be better to keep BSD as in license, and BSD as in distribution seperated and create special subforum
        "License and Right"
        so that situation is contained and not spread onto technical discussion.

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        • #19
          Can't wait 'Till it's finished! I hope that they are using KMS from a Linux kernel version that I was actually able to boot to! (Anything from before 3.5)

          Even if they don't, I'll test it out regardless to see if I can still boot to it!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by brosis View Post
            Thats said, its sure nice that anti-BSD trolls are banned, but its also nice if pro-BSD trolls are banned.
            I'm not biased about my reporting, just saying-- if you're a troll, if you harass people, if you launch personal attacks, if you spam the forums, no matter what side of the debate youre on (even if I agree with you) you're getting reported. Can only speak for myself though, maybe other posters are more biased with their reporting.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by crapI3SD
              I disagree, what lesterchester is saying here is pretty much well known and sensible. By taking KMS drivers from Linux, libel and Pedron are actually stealing GPLed code. Here's why:

              -KMS driver is MIT licensed
              -Linux kernel is GPLed
              -Thus linking KMS driver to Linux GPLs the KMS driver.
              -KMS (now GPLed) is taken from Linux and placed in BSD code as BSD licensed and thus violating the GPL.
              -Thus libel and Pedron are in fact thieves and violating the GPL.

              libel and Pedron are the ones that can be sued for damages they caused to the Linux foundation. they should be the ones who must be careful.
              Oh come on, now you start to backup your claims with another account created by yourself and you do it in such a half-assed way that anyone with half a brain can see it. Man, you are so pathetic.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TestingTe View Post
                Can't wait 'Till it's finished! I hope that they are using KMS from a Linux kernel version that I was actually able to boot to! (Anything from before 3.5)
                The work is based on Linux 3.8rc3, the most current version at the time I took the original code.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by dumbbell View Post
                  The work is based on Linux 3.8rc3, the most current version at the time I took the original code.
                  Magikarp.... that may be a problem for me..

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                  • #24
                    Thank you for the continued work on AMD KMS. I'd be delighted to hear more technical details about the work.

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                    • #25
                      Really looking forward to this... With KMS for both Intel and AMD, and the job being done by the PC-BSD folks, there is really a nice BSD desktop alternative.

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                      • #26
                        Can we just ban lesterchester and openslowlaris? It's pretty obvious this is the BSD troll.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by lesterchester View Post
                          Why the hell is there so many articles about this all repeating the same thing?
                          Because you respond to every one of them in the same fashion and that makes you a sad excuse for a troll. Try harder.

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                          • #28
                            Thank you all for the kind words!

                            In the next report, I'll add more technical details on what works and doesn't work.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dumbbell View Post
                              Thank you all for the kind words!

                              In the next report, I'll add more technical details on what works and doesn't work.
                              Quick question, would it be at all possible to backport this to FreeBSD 9.*?
                              I mean, not upstream, but could a user roll together a driver?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                                Quick question, would it be at all possible to backport this to FreeBSD 9.*?
                                I mean, not upstream, but could a user roll together a driver?
                                A contributor is already working on a backport to 9.x. So once the driver is committed and has lived enough time in 10-CURRENT to stabilize, it'll be merged in 9-STABLE. However, I'm not sure it'll be ready for 9.2.

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