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  • #46
    Originally posted by asdx
    Qt.

    Not QT.
    That made me smile.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by fioan89 View Post
      As I understand from you statements ,you are using your video card for video acceleration. Now my question is: how are you doing that? With Catalyst or with Gallium driver? I have a HD 4570 and now with Ubuntu 12.04.2 which uses a 3.5 kernel, Catalyst no longer support my card. For now I'm pleased with the graphics performance, but when it comes to video acceleration... everything sucks. And it seems that my Dual Core Pentium T4300 can't handle Full HD decoding.
      r600g supports VDPAU. It's a bit experimental at the moment, but it generally does work. Mind you, since it's an HTPC, I accelerate mostly TV streams, and that means MPEG2. The support for H.264 is a bit poor in that some colours are mismatched, last time I checked, but it should be fixed eventually.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
        Trolling, astroturfing, or both?
        Clearly a new class of poster has been presented before us.
        I bring you...the TROLLSTROTURFER!!!
        Look on his works, o ye believers in reason and DESPAIR

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        • #49
          Originally posted by curaga View Post
          That made me smile.
          He does it literally everything single time someone capitalizes the T in Qt. Like I get it, It is technically Qt and QT is either nothing at all, or QuickTime depending on where you are. But It really is unnecessary, asdx :P

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Ericg View Post
            He does it literally everything single time someone capitalizes the T in Qt. Like I get it, It is technically Qt and QT is either nothing at all, or QuickTime depending on where you are. But It really is unnecessary, asdx :P
            Reminds me of people in the Unreal Tournament community that get offended when someone uses the abbreviation "UT99" and keep saying "it wasn't called UT99 originally!". And, well, both points are valid. Why call it QT and UT99 if you can use Qt and UT1.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by log0 View Post
              Reading comprehension issues? How is it obsolete when it can keep up with current hardware (ok, maybe not with your "mine is the largest" 7970x2, but who cares?). I am running latest shit with 1080p on it.
              If the hardware is working for you and you don't feel held back by the hardware, then great... keep what you've got. With the way that r600g and the other OSS drivers are progressing, you'll probably keep getting free performance/stability upgrades for a while yet.

              My last few upgrades have been motivated not by performance, but by power consumption. A 7750/7770 can probably outperform a 4850, and the load power consumption is 55-80w on the 7750/7770 vs 110w on the 4850. The idle power consumption is also vastly improved on the newer generations.

              It also helps that I was moving cross-country, and managed to sell off my old 4770 before moving in order to pick up its replacement

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Veerappan View Post
                My last few upgrades have been motivated not by performance, but by power consumption. A 7750/7770 can probably outperform a 4850, and the load power consumption is 55-80w on the 7750/7770 vs 110w on the 4850. The idle power consumption is also vastly improved on the newer generations.
                Yes, that's true. I needed a new PSU for my HTPC, and bought a fairly low-end one, but I found out that my upgraded rig for the main PC is so energy efficient now that I ended up installing the lower-end PSU to my main PC.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                  He does it literally everything single time someone capitalizes the T in Qt. Like I get it, It is technically Qt and QT is either nothing at all, or QuickTime depending on where you are. But It really is unnecessary, asdx :P
                  I know. But it brightened my day to see it happen here, with the post having so many logical fallacies, he only had to point out the Qt capitalization.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Veerappan View Post
                    If the hardware is working for you and you don't feel held back by the hardware, then great... keep what you've got. With the way that r600g and the other OSS drivers are progressing, you'll probably keep getting free performance/stability upgrades for a while yet.

                    My last few upgrades have been motivated not by performance, but by power consumption. A 7750/7770 can probably outperform a 4850, and the load power consumption is 55-80w on the 7750/7770 vs 110w on the 4850. The idle power consumption is also vastly improved on the newer generations.

                    It also helps that I was moving cross-country, and managed to sell off my old 4770 before moving in order to pick up its replacement
                    Different use cases I guess. I am not running 4850 idle, got a low power machine(laptop) for that.

                    My point is, that I see zero motivation to move to latest gen, when a mid range GPU (which I would target) is just about as fast as the 4 years old card I've got.

                    And especially when the 8xxx versions are just re-branded 7xxx cards.

                    Oh and what about this 8350 crap, that seems to be a re-branded 5450. This is what I would call insanity.

                    Well done AMD!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                      r600g supports VDPAU. It's a bit experimental at the moment, but it generally does work. Mind you, since it's an HTPC, I accelerate mostly TV streams, and that means MPEG2. The support for H.264 is a bit poor in that some colours are mismatched, last time I checked, but it should be fixed eventually.
                      Wow. Thank you sir. I tought VDPAU is only for NVIDIA hardware. I'm going to further investigate this and see what can I get from my vide card.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by fioan89 View Post
                        I tought VDPAU is only for NVIDIA hardware.
                        Nope. It's just that NVIDIA developed it, so naturally the NVIDIA blob uses that. Intel developed VA-API, so the Intel drivers use that. AMD developed neither, so they just stuck with XvBA. And Nouveau and Radeon developers are free to choose whatever they see fit, as both VA-API and VDPAU are open. And then there are wrappers - XvBA can be used as a backend for VA-API, and so can VDPAU.

                        So, all in all, if you have Intel, you can use VA-API; if you have NVIDIA, you can use VDPAU and VA-API; if you have AMD, you can use either XvBA and VA-API or VDPAU and VA-API, depending on whether you use the blob or the OSS drivers.

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