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  • #31
    Let me start by saying that I'm biased so you guys should probably take this with a few grains of salt....

    I have heard that recent Intel APU's actually do have decent graphics cores.... But I think that -must- be relative to what they used to make.... It is my experience that they are incapable of producing decent graphics cores. Of course I come from a workstation background at a dell only shop and found out the hard way that Intel graphics arent even adequate to run a 2d desktop. I'm talking about waiting up to 30 seconds just for windows to draw. I just can't picture anything they produce being capable of any kind of 3d rendering...... Even if it has the capability I doubt very much it has the performance.

    I'd bet my next 2 paychecks that Intel's CPU is faster at 3d rendering than there GPU.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by duby229 View Post
      Let me start by saying that I'm biased so you guys should probably take this with a few grains of salt....

      I have heard that recent Intel APU's actually do have decent graphics cores.... But I think that -must- be relative to what they used to make.... It is my experience that they are incapable of producing decent graphics cores. Of course I come from a workstation background at a dell only shop and found out the hard way that Intel graphics arent even adequate to run a 2d desktop. I'm talking about waiting up to 30 seconds just for windows to draw. I just can't picture anything they produce being capable of any kind of 3d rendering...... Even if it has the capability I doubt very much it has the performance.

      I'd bet my next 2 paychecks that Intel's CPU is faster at 3d rendering than there GPU.
      You would loose imho. Here is what goes with current Intel IGPs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF0X1...1F6B94AC0738F9 .

      I still would recommend AMD/NV hw for gamers.
      Last edited by log0; 02-07-2013, 05:56 PM.

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      • #33
        OK, so at the time of this writing what we have is a $300 APU that is about 20% slower on graphics than a $90 APU......

        Not as bad as I thought, but still pretty bad.

        EDIT: of course that same Intel APU would wipe the floor on compute tasks though.
        Last edited by duby229; 02-07-2013, 07:53 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by duby229 View Post
          Of course I come from a workstation background at a dell only shop and found out the hard way that Intel graphics arent even adequate to run a 2d desktop. I'm talking about waiting up to 30 seconds just for windows to draw.
          Sorry, but that's FUD.

          If anything, that was badly written application, not drivers. If you're watching a motion picture the card is drawing at least 24 frames a second, every second.

          All cards that couldn't update their frame buffers at least few times a second become extinct in the early 90's...

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          • #35
            Yeah, thats kinda the point... Like I said I don't have any experience with the newer Intel APU's, but I know the older ones were not adequate even for 2d at a time when everything else was.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by duby229 View Post
              Yeah, thats kinda the point... Like I said I don't have any experience with the newer Intel APU's, but I know the older ones were not adequate even for 2d at a time when everything else was.
              The newer Intel APU's are equivalent to low-end GPUs. Which is a huge improvement over their old hardware.

              I certainly wouldn't recommend getting one if you intend to game, or use other 3d intensive apps, though. But they're great now for normal desktop usage and the occasional light gaming.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by duby229 View Post
                OK, so at the time of this writing what we have is a $300 APU that is about 20% slower on graphics than a $90 APU......

                Not as bad as I thought, but still pretty bad.

                EDIT: of course that same Intel APU would wipe the floor on compute tasks though.
                G2020, a 40$ APU from Intel with basic HD2000, drives 2D, composite and 3D with enough power for office and light gaming in 1920x1080, Q3 included. Scrolling is so fast, I had a jaw drop. Incomparable with AMD, which is slower 3D, worse 2D, less performance and much more power hungry.
                Last edited by brosis; 03-17-2013, 11:56 AM.

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