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  • #31
    Originally posted by marek View Post
    Heh, I don't even have an Intel IGP. I have recently made small changes in all gallium drivers while improving the gallium interface. I think I made about the same number of changes in each driver.


    And that's why you're the Man

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    • #32
      Originally posted by garegin View Post
      cool your jets hippie. intel drivers in windows are more capable AND faster than the linux ones.
      I know. It means Intel drivers on GNU/Linux can be much better performance wise.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bug77 View Post
        Basically, your quarrel is the license. I wonder how often you have to use that that makes cry rivers over it.
        Besides optimus, I couldn't name any missing features compared to Windows and optimus support is blown way out of proportions. One feature I particularly like is getting simultaneous driver releases for both Linux and Windows.
        Eh, no. Although license is a very big one. So big, AMD went for complete rewrite.

        Nvidia also decides on their own, which features will users get and craps on their reactions. Thats the second point.
        And their hardware is not universal one, like of AMD. And it became even more cut in Kepler - strictly gaming cards. Thats third.
        And then,.. that old thing when they essentially bought out or bankrupted everyone except ati. Thats fourth.

        But when you need good driver with good 3d and AMD gave crap (two years before),.. whats the choice left?..

        Originally posted by moilami View Post
        I know. It means Intel drivers on GNU/Linux can be much better performance wise.
        Closed source intel windows driver is about 10% faster......

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        • #34
          Originally posted by marek View Post
          Heh, I don't even have an Intel IGP. I have recently made small changes in all gallium drivers while improving the gallium interface. I think I made about the same number of changes in each driver.
          Dear Sir, if there is ANYTHING left that could be improved, please take our money

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          • #35
            Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
            Nvidia driver works, it is best proprietary supported driver and it brought 3D to Linux.
            Not quite. Nvidia brought proprietary 3D to Linux, but we had free and for the most part open 3D drivers beforehand:
            http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4152?page=0,0

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
              Not quite. Nvidia brought proprietary 3D to Linux, but we had free and for the most part open 3D drivers beforehand:
              http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4152?page=0,0
              Thanks for the article link!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
                Not quite. Nvidia brought proprietary 3D to Linux, but we had free and for the most part open 3D drivers beforehand:
                http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4152?page=0,0
                Eh, 3D acceleration was a lot simpler back in those days (but your observation is still correct, I won't dispute that).
                Today, I don't see anyone doing 3D modelling on Linux using anything other than a nvidia card with proprietary drivers.

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                • #38
                  So it would seem that a 4 year old promise is kept: the HD8000 series might be the first with launch-day support (or at least close). kudos guys. Starting a new driver from scratch with a 2 generation handicap, enabling older hardware along with new all the while enabling new features couldn't have been an easy task
                  No it's not done, no it's not 100% optimized, but the OSS driver is usable for basic tasks (talking about r600g, haven't tried radeonSI yet).

                  Serafean

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                  • #39
                    More than just basic - it has certainly not slowed down my gaming any.

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                    • #40
                      proprietary Catalyst drivers pain in the rear

                      Originally posted by Rexilion View Post
                      The general idea in this community is that opensource will solve that all on it's own (it's free!!). I'm suprised that ppl are dissapointed by the lagging support for this hardware. And are asking to donate money/manpower.

                      Proprietary software is being treated as it's the devil himself. Yet nVidia's driver is the best proof that proprietary works with opensource software.
                      Have you tried to use the proprietary Catalyst (Crapitalist?) drivers with Linux? It's a constant pain in the rear. X gets updated, but Catalyst no longer works with X. So you try to install some new application and it needs some updated X functionality. One of two things happens. Either a new version of X gets installed, and lo and behold X is broken. Or you simply cannot upgrade. But let's set aside the many technical problems with proprietary drivers for a moment.

                      Proprietary software is ethically wrong. It's holding back the progress of mankind. Think about how much faster technology progresses when software is done out in the open.

                      Also, it is naive to think that proprietary software is about gettings things for free. Programmers get paid to write free software. People buy hardware that is supported by free software. And companies sell support for free software. Free in this context is about freedom, not about price.

                      -ed.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by edsdead View Post
                        Have you tried to use the proprietary Catalyst (Crapitalist?) drivers with Linux? It's a constant pain in the rear. X gets updated, but Catalyst no longer works with X. So you try to install some new application and it needs some updated X functionality. One of two things happens. Either a new version of X gets installed, and lo and behold X is broken. Or you simply cannot upgrade. But let's set aside the many technical problems with proprietary drivers for a moment.

                        Proprietary software is ethically wrong. It's holding back the progress of mankind. Think about how much faster technology progresses when software is done out in the open.

                        Also, it is naive to think that proprietary software is about gettings things for free. Programmers get paid to write free software. People buy hardware that is supported by free software. And companies sell support for free software. Free in this context is about freedom, not about price.

                        -ed.
                        I believe that some software is genuinely proprietary since it contains a lot of hard work and effort by individuals who want to be rewarded for this effort. They have taken risk and put a lot of time in it.

                        There is no point in doing that if the competitor goes: Ow that's nice! *copy && paste*. Why invent if you cannot reap benefits? In the end, we all need to eat...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Rexilion View Post
                          I believe that some software is genuinely proprietary since it contains a lot of hard work and effort by individuals who want to be rewarded for this effort. They have taken risk and put a lot of time in it.

                          There is no point in doing that if the competitor goes: Ow that's nice! *copy && paste*. Why invent if you cannot reap benefits? In the end, we all need to eat...
                          A lot of hard work, effort, and time goes into free software as well. Part of the reason that free software progresses faster than proprietary software is that it is a constant race. The people who succeed at writing free software are the ones that lead the race and push the boundaries, not the ones who copy and paste. You are encouraged to keep developing to stay ahead of your competitors. You do not have the option in free software of resting on your laurels and collecting fat royalties by depriving people of freedom and holding back civilization, behaviors that in my mind should not be rewarded.

                          You can not only get paid to write free software, but there are other benefits as well. For example, you get recognition, which makes it more likely that more people will be interested in paying you to write more software. By contrast, when you work inside a proprietary software company, your name is not associated with your product. You are a prisoner of the proprietary vendor. There are other rewards as well, such as knowing that you are helping humanity progress... but it's time for breakfast.

                          -ed.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by edsdead View Post
                            Proprietary software is ethically wrong. It's holding back the progress of mankind...

                            Programmers get paid to write free software. People buy hardware that is supported by free software. And companies sell support for free software.
                            I'm a programmer. Should I start writing unusable software and give it away for free so I can make a living solely based on support? Because, you know, I'm quite embarrassed for holding the mankind back.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by bug77 View Post
                              I'm a programmer. Should I start writing unusable software and give it away for free so I can make a living solely based on support? Because, you know, I'm quite embarrassed for holding the mankind back.
                              Shame on you!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bug77 View Post
                                I'm a programmer. Should I start writing unusable software and give it away for free so I can make a living solely based on support? Because, you know, I'm quite embarrassed for holding the mankind back.
                                Again, free software does not have to be free, but anyway...

                                Written on the quite usable R600g drivers.

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