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  • 2013: A Good Year For Open-Source AMD?

    Phoronix: 2013: A Good Year For Open-Source AMD?

    For those disappointed by the results of the open-source vs. closed-source AMD Radeon graphics driver results on Linux at this time, you may be more pleased going forward and carry hope for open-source AMD advancements in 2013...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEwNjI

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    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: 2013: A Good Year For Open-Source AMD?

    For those disappointed by the results of the open-source vs. closed-source AMD Radeon graphics driver results on Linux at this time, you may be more pleased going forward and carry hope for open-source AMD advancements in 2013...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEwNjI
    Michael please consider running the tests(or at least the tweaked configuration) with vblank_mode=0 when testing at high resolution.

    I've noticed 1.6x fps increase: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...AR-MERGE234509

    Some are claiming even almost doubled fps: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...BY-GOG09979773

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    • #3
      I am getting 46fps in openarena 0.8.8 with vblank_mode=0 and pcie_gen2=1 compared to the 20-30fps in the 2012 May test...

      http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...AR-ARENAVB0043

      vs

      http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...mai_2012&num=6

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      • #4
        Originally posted by log0 View Post
        Michael please consider running the tests(or at least the tweaked configuration) with vblank_mode=0 when testing at high resolution.

        I've noticed 1.6x fps increase: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...AR-MERGE234509

        Some are claiming even almost doubled fps: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...BY-GOG09979773

        PTS automatically sets vblank_mode=0.
        Michael Larabel
        http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Michael View Post
          PTS automatically sets vblank_mode=0.
          But I am running vanilla Ubuntu 12.4 with xorg-edgers, SwapBuffersWait=0, ColorTiling=1, ColorTiling2D=1, vblank_mode=0, pcie_gen2=1 and getting almost twice fps!!!

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          • #6
            AMD will never have a good year.

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            • #7
              Looks like I've let irritate myself by the local vdrift vblank_mode numbers. The difference must be solely due to pcie_gen2=1 then?

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              • #8
                Hopefully

                Hopefully AMD will catch up with Intel when it comes to their open source drivers.

                While Intel has an insanly fast 2D acceleration architecture (SNA), AMD still uses EXA which likes to copy pixmap data arround like mad, instead executing the requested operations
                Hopefully the Gallium3D based DDX will solve these problems - hopefully not only for CGN.

                And while Intel's OpenGL driver on Linux is more or less compareable to the closed-source counterpart, the open-source AMD opengl drivers lack a lot of features and performance.

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                • #9
                  meanwhile

                  Meanwhile, I am waiting for my tinity based laptop to arrive mid-june =)

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                  • #10
                    the article is a copy/past FUD from Bridgmans propaganda.

                    if he recommend not to buy high-end he also means don't buy the newest stuff.

                    a hd5000 is the newest card you can buy if you try newer HDMI audio problems will hit you hard.

                    this also means linux users can not and should not buy "NEW" hardware from AMD

                    better buy 2 year old used stuff from ebay ......

                    anyway you will not buy from AMD because AMD only sell hardware to OEMs and OEMs don't give a shit about linux and AMD will always claim you never buyed a "AMD" card from AMD because of this no support.

                    the worst AMD GPU you can pick are the one with support from AMD an APU for example or a FireGL in the APU case you only will get 10% of the performance and in the FIREGL case only the workstation part of the EVIL Catalyst will get the money ZERO money will go into the opensource driver!

                    because the market share of linux doesn't matter because "andorid not a linux=ANAL" yo know you get a ANAL fuck if you buy amd hardware.

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                    • #11
                      Q since when are you a AMD Hater. In the past you was the biggest AMD Fanboy in the forum and now you make a 180 turn.

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                      • #12
                        I think he just hates me
                        Last edited by bridgman; 05-24-2012, 02:18 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nille View Post
                          Q since when are you a AMD Hater. In the past you was the biggest AMD Fanboy in the forum and now you make a 180 turn.
                          Q jumped on board the crazycheese train a while ago.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                            I think he just hates me
                            Hows that possible? Canadian types are the most agreeable people on the planet. I could spit in your face and then you would certainly thank me for the human contact.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                              Q jumped on board the crazycheese train a while ago.
                              What would you do in my shoes, when somebody offers to go opensource (1),
                              clearly knows the shortcomings of development speed (which make the solution completely unattractive) (2),
                              and denies ANY attempt to improve the situation or withdraws himself from that (3). Huh?

                              How much different ideas have I thrown into Bridgeman camp? 1, 2, 3, 4? No, they are perfectly satisfied with the overall progress. At this rate R800 support will match catalyst in 2017, remember this.

                              Mind you, I purchased two radeon cards for sake of opensource, the second dive was better, like going from completely unusable and crashing into slow as a fck. In two years. For same gen.
                              Should I report that as bug? But the devs are already 101% busy, doing 1000x job which is perfect in Bridgeman's opinion. He thinks the formula is perfect, there is no need to correct anything, but I beg to differ.
                              Remember, no external help is appreciated.

                              Btw, first radeon (R100) is broken completely (KMS). I may upload errata soon, if someone cares (even for the sake of "radeon feature").

                              Also, compare: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...DU3NzA&compare

                              If Radeon driver Kickstarter project eventually gets rolling, that would be first ray of light.

                              Where does my attitude towards gfx hardware and linux differs in general from that of Bridgeman? I don't consider Linux and GNU to be "construction yard of broken parts", I consider them to be an operating system.
                              If the hardware is proprietary and works - fine, ok, usable.
                              If it is opensource and broken and company is really in to fix it, taking everything from the community, maximizing the effort - even better. How to see it? Compare the development rate and attitude.
                              If it is opensource and works - best case.

                              The case with AMD? Opensource, broken and don't bother.

                              The thing is, you DO NEED to pay to even test AMD driver because you need hardware. Multiply this by complete disinterest from their side and you have the idea.

                              Why should I pay in this case? There are a lot of broken opensource projects, whose developers do not care about it(they even state it so). For me, such project belong to trash bin.

                              Should I bother if help's not wanted? What J.C. said about throwing jewels in front of the pigs?

                              Nvidia + Linux works for me as in "fine, ok, usable", so I have no option but to tolerate it. Burnt my fingers twice already, no thanks.

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