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  • #76
    Originally posted by airlied View Post
    yeah you didn't understand because I never said it in a general way. We just know in some cases that fglrx uses the hw in ways that the docs don't/won't cover, e.g. UVD. In most cases this isn't true, and its fine to never RE fglrx, because the docs are fine.

    So really in most cases I wouldn't dream of RE'ing fglrx since we have good enough docs/access to engineers.
    ok then in "video playback" and "power-management" the spec and AMD support is a lie... and the other stuff from AMD is fine.

    i really don't understand AMD here.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
      ok then in "video playback" and "power-management" the spec and AMD support is a lie...
      There's still a little difference in "good enaugh so it works, but not as good as it possibly could" and "a lie".

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
        ok then in "video playback" and "power-management" the spec and AMD support is a lie... and the other stuff from AMD is fine.

        i really don't understand AMD here.
        is that like the cake is a lie?

        not sure who you think AMD lied to, they never said they'd provide open support for anything until they cleared it.

        Dave.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by airlied View Post
          is that like the cake is a lie?

          not sure who you think AMD lied to, they never said they'd provide open support for anything until they cleared it.

          Dave.
          Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
          There's still a little difference in "good enaugh so it works, but not as good as it possibly could" and "a lie".

          ok maybe not a "lie" but a deliberate deception with fraudulent only for good PR and the plan of irritating consumers?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by airlied View Post
            is that like the cake is a lie?

            not sure who you think AMD lied to, they never said they'd provide open support for anything until they cleared it.

            Dave.
            The cake is a lie!!!
            The cake is a lie!!!
            The cake is a lie!!!
            The cake is a lie!!!
            The cake is a lie!!!

            OK. Never mind... On a serious note, I have not seen any commits lately for VDPAU State Tracker. Does anyone know if H.264 support is in the works yet? I had to move to NVIDIA card for my HTPC about six months ago and was not particularly happy about it.

            Or do I get sent back to the "Aperture Science Enrichment Center" for asking this question?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthZgszykLs

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            • #81
              Originally posted by amphigory View Post
              The cake is a lie!!!
              The cake is a lie!!!
              The cake is a lie!!!
              The cake is a lie!!!
              The cake is a lie!!!

              OK. Never mind... On a serious note, I have not seen any commits lately for VDPAU State Tracker. Does anyone know if H.264 support is in the works yet? I had to move to NVIDIA card for my HTPC about six months ago and was not particularly happy about it.

              Or do I get sent back to the "Aperture Science Enrichment Center" for asking this question?

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthZgszykLs
              Will AMD even touch h.264 support, or will the community have to do that because of patent issues?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                Will AMD even touch h.264 support, or will the community have to do that because of patent issues?
                Christian König started H.264 work back in January I believe. It should be safe as long as it is left as a build option (akin to '--enable-texture-float' switch).

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by amphigory View Post
                  Christian König started H.264 work back in January I believe. It should be safe as long as it is left as a build option (akin to '--enable-texture-float' switch).
                  And then he got hired by AMD and now they pay him to work on something else...

                  I think it's safe to say that you can forget about H.264 support (whether it be UVD or shader approach) in the open MAD drivers for the coming years. Nobody is working on it and AMD don't seem to care.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
                    And then he got hired by AMD and now they pay him to work on something else...

                    I think it's safe to say that you can forget about H.264 support (whether it be UVD or shader approach) in the open MAD drivers for the coming years. Nobody is working on it and AMD don't seem to care.
                    It's "safe to say" in the sense that nobody will hunt you down and hurt you for saying it, but (reads again to be sure) yep, everything else you said in that post was wrong.

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                    • #85
                      Slightly OT but I'm wondering if Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA will all have their collective asses kicked by ARMv8 (64 bit) based chipsets? My Samsung Galaxy SII (Exynos 4, ARMv7 core) delivers awesome performance considering it is such a low power device. I'd buy a laptop with ARMv8 today if I could. It would be cool to have a notebook one only had to charge every three days or so... :-)

                      Edit: Just read the NVIDIA is jumping on the ARM bandwagon...
                      Last edited by amphigory; 06-05-2012, 01:26 PM.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
                        And then he got hired by AMD and now they pay him to work on something else...

                        I think it's safe to say that you can forget about H.264 support (whether it be UVD or shader approach) in the open MAD drivers for the coming years. Nobody is working on it and AMD don't seem to care.
                        Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                        It's "safe to say" in the sense that nobody will hunt you down and hurt you for saying it, but (reads again to be sure) yep, everything else you said in that post was wrong.
                        EPIC LOL...... AnonymousCoward really floats in the liquid manure here.

                        Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                        Did someone say "food" ?

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                        • #87
                          Jam Tomorrow

                          This is all starting to sound reminiscent of Chiang Kai Shek, who promised every Chinese New Year that "We will retake the mainland". The truth is the "Nationalists" went further into decline with each passing year.

                          And so it is with AMD and their lame duck open source efforts. Things are going backwards, not forward. I was once an advocate for the open source radeon driver, because I was a weak-willed, gullible fool, believing the extravagant promises.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by gordboy View Post
                            This is all starting to sound reminiscent of Chiang Kai Shek, who promised every Chinese New Year that "We will retake the mainland". The truth is the "Nationalists" went further into decline with each passing year.

                            And so it is with AMD and their lame duck open source efforts. Things are going backwards, not forward. I was once an advocate for the open source radeon driver, because I was a weak-willed, gullible fool, believing the extravagant promises.
                            I'll see you at the party.

                            Cheers,
                            Mao Zedong

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                            • #89
                              Christian König started H.264 work back in January I believe. It should be safe as long as it is left as a build option (akin to '--enable-texture-float' switch).
                              And then he got hired by AMD and now they pay him to work on something else...

                              I think it's safe to say that you can forget about H.264 support (whether it be UVD or shader approach) in the open MAD drivers for the coming years. Nobody is working on it and AMD don't seem to care.
                              Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                              It's "safe to say" in the sense that nobody will hunt you down and hurt you for saying it, but (reads again to be sure) yep, everything else you said in that post was wrong.
                              Great news. I'm taking this as official confirmation direct from AMD that he's currently working on h.264 support and it will be available to end users soon.

                              Don't disappoint me

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                                soon.
                                I doesn't see this anywhere, but I hope to see UVD support soon too.

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