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  • Northern Islands HDMI audio?

    Can I ask what is the state of play with HDMI audio on Northern Islands? I know it is pretty much done now for Evergreen thanks to Rafał Miłecki, but for N. I. the X.Org wiki says "Todo". My HD 4670 has pretty much given up the ghost (& doesn't seem to respond to the oven-baking trick either) so I am looking now at upgrading to "Turks" (HD 6670) as that looks like the nearest equivalent in the N. I. range and TDP should be OK for my passive HTPC case. Our main use is for HTPC TV & media playback, so 3D performance is not of great interest to us. I am also looking ahead to 3D TV...even though I know it is early days yet - HDMI 1.4 seems to be a requirement for that, which is available on N.I. h/w but not Evergreen as far as I can see.

    If anyone (@zajec or Christian Konig?) is working on N. I. HDMI audio (or planning to) I am up for registry hacking, testing or anything else I can do to help. I did some of this for HD 4670 HDMI audio on radeonhd a while back. If HDMI audio is a foreseeable prospect we can manage on fglrx and/or separate audio for the time being. As stated above I would plan on purchasing HD 6670 h/w.

    On the topic of HDMI 1.4, is support for that planned in radeon OSS driver, or already done - or is it all done in h/w anyway?

    Regards,
    Andrew

  • #2
    I am 6850 owner. It still doesn't support HDMI audio.

    My advice is keep away from ATI cards if you want to use it on Linux with Open Sourced Radeon Drivers..
    The worst thing is, it consumes ~90W extra on IDLE. Yes on IDLE.
    I have to use my integrated RS780 for save power.
    Even if I use echo "low" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile, it consumes ~20 more watt than catalyst driver "using same card!"
    But using "low profile" slow down GPU. And it reacts slower than my integrated GPU.
    There is some automated modes available also. Like "dnypm" method. But it gives you flickers!

    I don't recommend ATI to anyone until their open sourced "Power" problems fixed.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by AndyW View Post
      If anyone (@zajec or Christian Konig?) is working on N. I. HDMI audio (or planning to) I am up for registry hacking, testing or anything else I can do to help. I did some of this for HD 4670 HDMI audio on radeonhd a while back. If HDMI audio is a foreseeable prospect we can manage on fglrx and/or separate audio for the time being. As stated above I would plan on purchasing HD 6670 h/w.

      On the topic of HDMI 1.4, is support for that planned in radeon OSS driver, or already done - or is it all done in h/w anyway?
      We weren't able to release the full HDMI audio implementation developed internally -- the data structures relied on some other standards where it wasn't clear we could get rights to use it in open source code -- but we did get the final bit of approval today to release register info for the blocks that control HDMI audio on newer chips. Alex pushed the patch on dri-devel earlier today :

      http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...ch/020717.html

      That should include enough info to get the current code working.

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      • #4
        DCE5 audio (Northern Islands) is identical to DCE4 audio (evergreen).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bridgman View Post
          We weren't able to release the full HDMI audio implementation developed internally -- the data structures relied on some other standards where it wasn't clear we could get rights to use it in open source code
          another waste of "Opensource/linux" money.

          next is UVD... after you spending dev time and money on it you write something similar:

          Future-bridgman: "We weren't able to release the full UVD video implementation developed internally -- the data structures relied on some other standards (DRM-HDCP) where it wasn't clear we could get rights to use it in open source code because it breaks the video-Copy protection."

          this all is just a discrimination of opensource users!

          it was just the "BIG" plan to hurt "Linux" and "Opensource" in the long "RUN"

          you as a manager you just "know" this this is how "Evil" "Dirty" fights going one in the "Business"

          and then after the discrimination you blame the "Linux market share" but this is just a Lie because the companys like "AMD" do ALL to LOWER the linux market share!

          just tell me how much microsoft pay to AMD to hurt Linux/opensource?

          the Xbox chips must be very expensive for microsoft to make this happen.

          its funny xbox losers buy a xbox for 200-400€ (and maybe 40-50€ for the amd chip) a PC gamer buy a hd7970 for 500€ but amd chose to support xbox more than the "PC"

          Business as usual ......... and you bridgman you are the "Clown" for the distraction maybe the linux people don't recognise the discrimination

          please delete your "Phoronix" account.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
            please delete your "Phoronix" account.
            I don't think accounts can be deleted like that. As an alternative, how about if you set "ignore" for my username and I do the same for yours ?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bridgman View Post
              I don't think accounts can be deleted like that. As an alternative, how about if you set "ignore" for my username and I do the same for yours ?
              i life in the "Reality" because of this i do have ZERO names on my "Ignore" list

              and i do not understand why people want to life in a "reduced real world"

              anyway we will see the same for the UVD unit.

              your work is "Hopeless"

              just tell me why do you waste "our" opensource money on hopeless missions ?

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              • #8
                Qaridarium, please stop trolling. Bridgman himself also can't help that other people at AMD aren't pro open source. Would you prefer no open source driver at all from AMD?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                  i life in the "Reality"
                  LOL, that may be the most outrageous statement made by Q yet.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                    i life in the "Reality"
                    Ha ha. Sure. Which reality would that be. The reality of Planet Andromeda.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                      i life in the "Reality"
                      Good to know that you're not a trolling robot but a real life person. Or should we have better not known this and treated you as a bot to be ignored?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AlbertP View Post
                        Qaridarium, please stop trolling. Bridgman himself also can't help that other people at AMD aren't pro open source. Would you prefer no open source driver at all from AMD?
                        i use the opensource driver "radeon" right now.

                        and i'm not sure about "bridgman" he is not so pro linux at all cost he as a "Manager" is more like this: "Linux support only inside of the linux market-share range"

                        and if you think in this way "Microsoft" already won.

                        because: linux is counted as a warez version ov Windows
                        because: microsoft do have deals with ALL hardware company to make sure microsoft gets the best driver
                        because: microsoft do have deals with ALL OEMs to make sure windows comes first and linux only on outdated hardware.
                        Because: Microsoft spend millions of dollars to hurt linux directly.
                        Because: Microsoft corrupt politicians so they chose windows and München in Germany prove : linux is cheaper and better this means ALL other Politicians are Corrupted by Microsoft black-Money

                        and so one and so one.

                        Birdgman is not the holy warrior for Opensource he is also corrupted by the "Money"

                        and i can prove this: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/18211...s-windows.html

                        Linux is proved Cheaper and more reliable than Windows!!!

                        this means all arguments for windows are just lies from corrupted people purchased with bribe from Microsoft.

                        this means the high market share of windows are just cheated and corrupted and faked with bride money!

                        because of this bridgman is wrong !

                        only 2% market share money for the linux drivers are just discrimination!

                        2% for windows and 98% for linux is the right way to go!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                          fap fap fap fap
                          I Qar. Me many "quote" and make hard sentence word coherent. EVER!!!!

                          F

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                          • #14
                            Hi, I'm a rich company and I want to hurt opensource in the most roundabout way possible. I'm going to hire about 4 open source developers and pay them to develop drivers for my hardware. After wasting all that money I'm going to say that the code cannot be released.. if you have any questions, please direct them to Qaridarium because he is our company's official spokesperson.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by renkin View Post
                              Hi, I'm a rich company and I want to hurt opensource in the most roundabout way possible. I'm going to hire about 4 open source developers and pay them to develop drivers for my hardware. After wasting all that money I'm going to say that the code cannot be released.. if you have any questions, please direct them to Qaridarium because he is our company's official spokesperson.
                              its not roundabout if you need a very good "excuse"

                              its a very cheap "excuse"

                              a company like AMD don't give a fuck about paying 4 opensource developers just for a "excuse"

                              and the excuse is: hey we try our best and we pay developers but the "Law" is against opensource and because of this we are sooooo SORRY...

                              why not drop the HDMI unit and the UVD unit and build true opensource hardware?

                              the answer is simple: they don't need opensource hardware they just need Excuses!

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